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				F1 or F2 in Hamburg-Germany
				Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:58 pm
				by Bunkertor
				Quite unusual ! 
On 28. of March a strong F1 hit Hamburg, 2 construction-workers dead in their cranes, 300000 without power. Traffic collapses for 4 hours. 140 trains stuck.
If someone is interested, i can send the pictures. I don´t know, if i´m allowed to post them here, because some are from SPIEGEL-Mag.
Eike, Hamburg
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 5:00 pm
				by Bunkertor
				
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:45 pm
				by 6SpeedTA95
				Wow...thats a pretty rare occurance...
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:02 pm
				by Bunkertor
				Indeed. But i can´t believe, the didn´t get the workers out of their cranes.
The Hamburg Tornado occured, because the Jet-Stream went over northern Germany at this time.
But check here ! That was even worse for germany. It happened in lower saxony...
http://www.saevert.de/micheln.htm 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:03 pm
				by Bunkertor
				Could you take a look at the pictures. How would you rate it ?
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/0,553 ... _3,00.html 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:06 pm
				by 6SpeedTA95
				Cool pics.  Do they have a National Weather Service or something similar in Germany?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:14 pm
				by Bunkertor
				It´s nothing similar. The warn in case of strong winds or lightning or heavy rain.
That looks like that
http://www.dwd.de/
or
http://www.unwetterzentrale.de
It´s well developed but ordinary people here don´t really need special outlooks like in OK.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:16 pm
				by 6SpeedTA95
				Bunkertor wrote:It´s nothing similar. The warn in case of strong winds or lightning or heavy rain.
That looks like that
http://www.dwd.de/or
http://www.unwetterzentrale.deIt´s well developed but ordinary people here don´t really need special outlooks like in OK.
 
So then what do you guys do in tornadic situations like you had the otherday?
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:17 pm
				by SamSagnella
				According to ESTOFEX there were four tornadoes in Germany that day: 3 F1s and an F2, which hit Hamburg. 
more information is available at: 
http://essl.org/ESWD/
scroll down and enter the date 27 03 2006
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:25 pm
				by Bunkertor
				Nothing - just getting surprised and praying...building a severe weather alert system is to expensive for 2 F0´s a year. When it really hits us, people are not prepared. But there is no problem with mobile homes for example - so there´s no reason to fear about casualties.
I for myself would " duck and cover " 
 
So then what do you guys do in tornadic situations like you had the otherday?[/quote]
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:28 pm
				by Bunkertor
				SamSagnella wrote:According to ESTOFEX there were four tornadoes in Germany that day: 3 F1s and an F2, which hit Hamburg. 
more information is available at: 
http://essl.org/ESWD/scroll down and enter the date 27 03 2006
 
Wow - thanks for the link - i didn´t know this site.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:34 pm
				by Extremeweatherguy
				Bunkertor wrote:Nothing - just getting surprised and praying...building a severe weather alert system is to expensive for 2 F0´s a year. When it really hits us, people are not prepared. But there is no problem with mobile homes for example - so there´s no reason to fear about casualties.
I for myself would " duck and cover " 

So then what do you guys do in tornadic situations like you had the otherday?
 
[/quote] In tornadic situations in the U.S. a tornado watch may or may not precede a tornado. The watch usually means that tornadoes are possible in the outlined area during the day. If a torandic storm then forms, a tornado warning will be issued on a county wide basis. These warnings get to the people through radio, TV, etc. and in many Midwestern cities...a tornado warning siren will sound. Based on the warning and your relative location in comparison to the storm you either take cover or monitor the situation. When a tornado hits, most would take cover in a bathroom or windowless interior room...or a basement/storm shelter if available. Immediately after a tornado, the clean up will begin and the National Weather Service will come out to the tornado sight to determine it's intensity. The intensity is then usually announced within 36 hours. We usually will get word that tornadoes are possible for the day hours in advance (though not always), and we usually get warning that one is on the ground about 3-15 minutes before it hits. This is not always the case, however. Some tornadoes have hit with no warning, and others have had over 30 minutes of warning. 
The orgnization that issues tornado watches is the storm prediction center located in Norman, OK. Tornado warnings are then issued on a local level (by local National weather service offices).
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:47 pm
				by Bunkertor
				Yes, you can´t predict a touchdown. But over here, it wouldn´t be possible because we have only a few freaky spotters following hailclouds. In the south there are hailflyers that powder silveroxide into clouds so the can rain down and fruit and wineyards are protected. But i never heard a wether massage on radio that predicted more than  hail or flood or something.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 9:10 am
				by 6SpeedTA95
				When the weather gets bad here I have it on the TV, and have one of my PC's up and running typically bouncing around between a couple forums and several weather windows.  When there's some big time severe weather in the area I typically have both PC's up.  My laptop so I can sit in front of the TV and stream multiple sources.  The other PC in my office and its tracking/recording nexrad data so I can analyze it.  I guess if a tornado came into our area we'd get in the center closet at our house.  
The bad part is most folks dont even attempt to watch the weather.  They flip over to it during commercials or something.  Unless sirens go off they rarely pay attention around here.