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Wednesday Severe Threat across the Southland/Discussions

#1 Postby Stormsfury » Tue Mar 04, 2003 11:24 am

Map Valid until 1200z 3/6/03
Prognostic Discussion for the Southeastern States
Read below for excerpt from the Storm Prediction Center regarding Severe potential.

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...SYNOPSIS...
A CLOSED MID LEVEL HIGH TO THE W OF BRITISH COLUMBIA WILL BREAK
DOWN AS A SHORTWAVE TROUGH INVOF THE ALEUTIANS DIGS SEWD OVER THE
NRN GULF OF ALASKA. THIS WILL ALLOW A SHORTWAVE TROUGH...CENTERED
W OF SFO EARLY THIS MORNING...TO DIG SEWD TODAY TOWARD NRN BAJA AND
THEN EJECT ENEWD OVER THE SRN PLAINS TO THE MS VALLEY BY TOMORROW
NIGHT. IN THE WAKE OF A SURFACE LOW THAT IS FORECAST TO DEVELOP
NEWD FROM THE OH VALLEY TO MAINE THE FIRST HALF OF THE PERIOD...
EXPECT A TRAILING BAROCLINIC ZONE TO STALL FROM E TX TO WRN TN IN
ADVANCE OF THE MID LEVEL TROUGH EJECTING FROM THE SRN ROCKIES AREA.
WEAK CYCLOGENESIS IS EXPECTED ALONG THIS FRONT INVOF NRN LA/SRN AR
DURING THE AFTERNOON...AND THIS LOW SHOULD MOVE ENEWD TOWARD NC/VA
BY THE END OF THE PERIOD.

...GULF STATES...
BOUNDARY LAYER DEW POINTS IN THE 65-70 F RANGE ARE PRESENT OVER THE
CENTRAL/SRN GULF...AND THIS MOISTURE SHOULD SPREAD INLAND TOMORROW
ACROSS THE GULF COAST. AFTERNOON TEMPERATURES IN THE 70S WILL
COMBINE WITH 7-8 C/KM LAPSE RATES IN THE 2-4 KM AGL LAYER...AND THE
INCREASING LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE...TO SUPPORT MLCAPE VALUES OF 500-
1500 J/KG IN THE WARM SECTOR. EXPECT THUNDERSTORMS TO DEVELOP BY
LATE AFTERNOON ACROSS E/SE TX...AND THEN SPREAD NEWD OVER
LA/MS/AL/GA DURING THE NIGHT. STRONG DEEP LAYER SHEAR WILL BE CO-
LOCATED WITH THIS WEAK-MODERATE INSTABILITY...THUS A FEW SUPERCELLS
WILL BE POSSIBLE. THE LARGE HAIL THREAT SHOULD BE GREATER IN THE
SE TX AREA WHERE INSTABILITY WILL BE MAXIMIZED...WHILE DAMAGING
WINDS SHOULD BE THE MAIN THREAT OVERNIGHT ACROSS THE GULF STATES
GIVEN STRONG SPEED SHEAR AND SOMEWHAT UNIDIRECTIONAL WIND PROFILES.
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#2 Postby Stormsfury » Tue Mar 04, 2003 9:36 pm

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STORM PREDICTION CENTER...NWS/NCEP...NORMAN OK
DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK...REF AWIPS GRAPHIC PGWI47 KWNS.

VALID 051200Z - 061200Z

THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS TO THE RIGHT OF A LINE FROM
10 SSE PSX 60 S CLL 30 W LFK 35 SW GLH 35 ENE GWO 45 NE CBM
10 N RMG 30 NW AND 15 W CLT 30 N SOP 15 E RWI 15 NNW EWN ILM
25 NW CHS 50 SE MCN 50 N PNS 30 WSW HUM.

GEN TSTMS ARE FCST TO THE RIGHT OF A LINE FROM 25 SW PSX 40 WSW CLL
55 NNE GLH 25 SE LEX 20 W EKN 35 ESE DOV.

GEN TSTMS ARE FCST TO THE RIGHT OF A LINE FROM 35 NNW DAB
35 SSE CTY.

...SYNOPSIS...
A LARGE-SCALE UPPER TROUGH WILL DIG SOUTHEAST INTO THE SOUTHERN
ROCKIES TONIGHT AND THEN LIFT ENEWD INTO THE SOUTHERN PLAINS AND
MID-MISSISSIPPI VALLEY TOMORROW. A COLD FRONT WILL PUSH SOUTHEAST
TOWARD THE GULF COAST TONIGHT AND STALL FROM SOUTHEAST TEXAS
EXTENDING ENEWD TO THE TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEYS BY WEDNESDAY
MORNING. A SHORT-WAVE WILL EJECT RAPIDLY ENEWD WEDNESDAY MORNING
CAUSING A WEAK SURFACE LOW TO DEVELOP AND RIDE ALONG THE FRONT INTO
THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY DURING THE DAY AND CONTINUE INTO THE
CAROLINAS BY THE END OF THE PERIOD.

...SERN TX/LOWER MS VALLEY EWD TO AL/GA AND CAROLINAS...
DEWPOINTS FROM 65 TO 70 F CURRENTLY OVER THE CENTRAL GULF WILL
SPREAD SEVERAL HUNDRED MILES INLAND BY LATE WEDNESDAY MORNING.
TEMPERATURES WILL RISE INTO THE 70S BY EARLY AFTERNOON RESULTING IN
MLCAPE OF 1000-1500 J/KG. AS CONVERGENCE INCREASES AHEAD THE COLD
FRONT AND DEVELOPING SURFACE LOW...CONVECTIVE INITIATION SHOULD
OCCUR NEAR HOUSTON WITH A STORM CLUSTER SPREADING QUICKLY
NORTHEAST. GIVEN THE STRONG DEEP LAYER SPEED SHEAR AND STEEP LAPSE
RATES...SUPERCELLS WILL BE POSSIBLE WITH A THREAT FOR LARGE HAIL.
CONVECTION IS LIKELY TO INCREASE IN COVERAGE AND SPREAD NORTHEAST
ACROSS LOUISIANA BY EARLY EVENING IN THE RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION OF
THE UPPER-LEVEL JET. THE LARGE HAIL THREAT MAY DECREASE SOMEWHAT BY
MID-EVENING WEDNESDAY AS INSTABILITY AND LAPSE RATES WEAKEN.
HOWEVER...LARGE SCALE FORCING AND VERY STRONG DEEP LAYER SHEAR
SHOULD PROMOTE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A LINEAR MCS WITH EMBEDDED BOW
ECHOES...AND POSSIBLY ISOLD TORNADOES...DURING THE LATE EVENING.
GIVEN SUFFICIENTLY WARM/MOIST BOUNDARY LAYER FCST FROM MS/AL EWD TO
THE CAROLINAS THROUGH WEDNESDAY NIGHT...EXPECT MLCAPE AROUND 1000
J/KG TO SUPPORT A CONTINUATION OF SEVERE WEATHER THREAT AS STORM
COMPLEX RACES ENEWD AT 45-50KT INTO THE ERN CAROLINAS BY DAYBREAK
THURSDAY.
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#3 Postby breeze » Tue Mar 04, 2003 9:56 pm

I'm in the possibility! It's warm and cloudy - windy - my
wind chimes are playing lovely tunes, tonight...

Usually when it's warm, this time of year, TN sees storms...

...just keeping an eye out, Stormsfury - thanks!
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#4 Postby Stormsfury » Wed Mar 05, 2003 12:31 pm

UPDATE: 12:35 PM MARCH 5TH, 2003

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BROAD/DEEP UPPER TROUGH IS PRESENT TODAY ACROSS MOST OF THE
CONTIGUOUS UNITED STATES...WITH VERY STRONG WEST-SOUTHWESTERLY
MID/UPPER LEVEL WINDS EXTENDING FROM TX INTO THE CAROLINAS.
SHORTWAVE TROUGH EVIDENT ON WATER VAPOR IMAGERY OVER NORTHERN
MEXICO WILL TRACK NORTHEASTWARD AND AID IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF
THUNDERSTORMS THIS AFTERNOON FROM SOUTHEAST TX INTO PARTS OF LA/MS.

SURFACE DEWPOINTS ARE EXPECTED TO INCREASE RAPIDLY ALONG THE UPPER
TX AND LA GULF COAST...WITH VALUES IN THE MID/UPPER 60S BY 21Z.
DESPITE WIDESPREAD CLOUDINESS...MARGINAL TO MODERATE SURFACE-BASED
INSTABILITY IS EXPECTED.

...SE TX/LA...
PRESENT INDICATIONS ARE THAT ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS WILL DEVELOP BY
MID AFTERNOON OVER EXTREME SOUTHEAST TX AND SOUTHERN LA AS STRONG
COLD FRONT SWEEPS INTO REGION. VERTICAL SHEAR PROFILES APPEAR
FAVORABLE FOR SUPERCELLS...BUT LINEAR FORCING MECHANISM AND RATHER
WEAK CAPE VALUES LIMIT CONFIDENCE OF SIGNIFICANT SEVERE AND TORNADO
THREAT. HOWEVER...DAMAGING WINDS...HAIL...AND PERHAPS ISOLATED
TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE.

...MS/AL/GA/SC...
STORMS WILL DEVELOP EASTWARD ACROSS LA DURING THE LATE AFTERNOON
AND EVENING...INTO AN INCREASINGLY MOIST LOW LEVEL AIRMASS. MODEL
GUIDANCE SHOWS LOW/MID LEVEL WINDS BECOMING EXTREMELY STRONG
OVERNIGHT...WITH 70-90 KNOTS AT 500MB AND 50-70 KNOTS AT 850MB.
ASSUMING STORMS DEVELOP INTO A SQUALL LINE...POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR
A LONG-LIVED WIND DAMAGE EVENT FROM LA INTO SC. SOME THREAT WILL
ALSO PERSIST FOR ISOLATED TORNADOES OVER THIS REGION OVERNIGHT.
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#5 Postby Stormsfury » Wed Mar 05, 2003 1:20 pm

...MS/AL/GA/SC...
STORMS WILL DEVELOP EASTWARD ACROSS LA DURING THE LATE AFTERNOON
AND EVENING...INTO AN INCREASINGLY MOIST LOW LEVEL AIRMASS. MODEL
GUIDANCE SHOWS LOW/MID LEVEL WINDS BECOMING EXTREMELY STRONG
OVERNIGHT...WITH 70-90 KNOTS AT 500MB AND 50-70 KNOTS AT 850MB.
ASSUMING STORMS DEVELOP INTO A SQUALL LINE...POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR
A LONG-LIVED WIND DAMAGE EVENT FROM LA INTO SC. SOME THREAT WILL
ALSO PERSIST FOR ISOLATED TORNADOES OVER THIS REGION OVERNIGHT


This line concerns me quite greatly ... as this possibly is pointing to a derecho. (A long lived and continuous wind damage event).

Remember the Great Adironack Blowdown a few years ago?
(Was featured at one time or another on programs on TWC, and TLC)
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#6 Postby wx247 » Wed Mar 05, 2003 3:07 pm

Derechos are of great concern! It is something we will need to keep a close eye on.

Garrett :multi:
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#7 Postby Amanzi » Wed Mar 05, 2003 6:59 pm

Keep an eye on this situation people!
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#9 Postby Stormsfury » Wed Mar 05, 2003 8:45 pm

Alabama lighting up pretty roughly also.

http://weather.noaa.gov/radar/loop/DS.p ... kbmx.shtml
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#10 Postby HeartofNC » Wed Mar 05, 2003 8:53 pm

Stormsfury,

Local met's have predicted some boomers tonight/tmr morning, do you see this happening?

Thanks,

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#11 Postby Stormsfury » Wed Mar 05, 2003 8:56 pm

Yes I do...

Latest RUC model runs on QPF output paints Central NC in some very heavy QPF with the rapidly moving thunderstorms, some severe.
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#12 Postby HeartofNC » Wed Mar 05, 2003 9:05 pm

what about the timing on those storms?

(thanks!!) :wink:
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#13 Postby Stormsfury » Wed Mar 05, 2003 9:10 pm

According to the RUC run I just viewed, the timing of the rain/thunderstorms would be towards the morning hours Thursday. (from after 5 am)
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#14 Postby Stormsfury » Wed Mar 05, 2003 9:19 pm

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MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0192
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0757 PM CST WED MAR 05 2003

AREAS AFFECTED...GA

CONCERNING...SEVERE THUNDERSTORM POTENTIAL...HEAVY RAINFALL

VALID 060157Z - 060300Z

MARGINALLY ISOLATED SEVERE HAIL POSSIBLE THIS EVENING. STORMS IN
AL APPEAR TO BE ORGANIZING. THUS...INCREASED WIND THREAT SUGGEST
WW MAY BE NEEDED SOON ACROSS CENTRAL GA.

WARM FRONT EXTENDS FROM NORTH OF MGM IN SRN AL EWD TO NORTH OF
MCN IN SRN GA. STORMS ARE LOCATED IN THE WARM ADVECTION AREA
NORTH OF THE WARM FRONT WITH THE ATL EVENING SOUNDING SHOW
UPDRAFT ROOTS AROUND 800 MB. SPEED SHEAR IS STRONG FROM 800MB TO
300 MB AND AIDING IN STORM ORGANIZATION.

VAD WIND PROFILES INDICATE THAT A MID/HIGH SHORTWAVE TROUGH IS
MOVING ENEWD THROUGH THE UPPER FLOW AND WAS LOCATED NEAR THE
MS/AL BORDER. STORMS HAVE STRENGTHENED RECENTLY IN CENTRAL AL.
ATL EVENING SOUNDING SHOWED AROUND 1000 J/KG AND IF STORMS IN
CENTRAL AL CAN REMAIN ORIENTED NEAR THE WARM FRONT...WIND THREAT
WOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR A WW ACROSS PORTIONS OF GA.

ISOLATED HEAVY RAINFALL IS ALSO POSSIBLE ACROSS NRN GA IN AREA OF
STRONG LIFT WHERE 50-60 KT 850 MB WINDS ARE FORECAST TO ADVECT
10C DEWPOINTS NEWD ACROSS THE AREA DURING THE NEXT FEW HOURS.
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#15 Postby HeartofNC » Wed Mar 05, 2003 9:22 pm

Thank you for my personal forcast, I appreciate it!

Take care!

Vicky
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#16 Postby hurrdavid » Thu Mar 06, 2003 11:31 am

when will orlando g severeweathr in orlando??????????
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#17 Postby Stormsfury » Thu Mar 06, 2003 12:41 pm

I'm pretty sure the severe weather stays out of the Orlando area.

The wind damage reports weren't as large as I expected, but there were a lot more hail reports in SC/NC than I expected.

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/030305_rpts.html
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#18 Postby Rob-TheStormChaser » Fri Mar 07, 2003 1:01 pm

Nice upkeep of the events Mike....I guess I'm having to get my feet re-wet again..lol
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#19 Postby Stormsfury » Fri Mar 07, 2003 9:56 pm

Thanks, Rob.

I haven't been able to keep up with the in-depth forecast discussions due to practically no time - work has chained me from 6 am to 6 pm (with a long lunch break - basically 4 hours on, 4 off, 4 hours on, the whole week ... absolutely stinks that way).

After practically 15 straight hours here with audible thunder and quite a lightning show as well with a lot of elevated convection with tons of CG - (Cloud to Ground Lightning) the cold air damming set in and dropped the temperatures thus stabilizing the air (with steady colder rains).

At 9:50 pm, temperatures have slid to 43 and the cloudy CAD wedge in place.

The temperature here in the last 2 weeks have been a definite roller coaster ... (temperature difference 24 hours at 3 pm yesterday and today was 31 degrees colder today).

Already, 2.40" of rain this young March (already blew away January rainfall totals for the month, and another half-inch will tie February.)
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#20 Postby HeartofNC » Fri Mar 07, 2003 10:00 pm

A late update, Thursday morning we had thunderstorms rip through from about 4 - 5 AM - tore part of the steeple off our church. Damage was not reported to anyone, but damage has been repaired (by hubby!)

Thanks again!

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