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#741 Postby Ntxw » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:54 pm

Brent wrote:Shoot I know people who have lived here longer than me who love warmth...

I don't get it.


Who knows maybe it's like a rubber band. It just keeps stretching and waiting and waiting, maybe it will snap and we skip fall to winter :lol:. Certainly don't mind a 1993 late October redux
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#742 Postby weatherdude1108 » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:00 pm

SO CLOSE......Yet so far.

Feast or famine.

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AUSTIN/SAN ANTONIO TX
1046 PM CDT THU OCT 8 2015

.UPDATE...
IN SUMMARY...SIGNIFICANT FLASH FLOODING IS EXPECTED IN KINNEY AND
MAVERICK COUNTIES...WITH ISOLATED SPOTS OF FLASH FLOODING POSSIBLE
IN VAL VERDE...ZAVALA...AND UVALDE COUNTIES THROGH THE OVERNIGHT
HOURS. AN ADDITIONAL 1-3 INCHES OF RAIN WITH ISOLATED SPOTS UP TO
4-5 INCHES WILL BE POSSIBLE...PARTICULARLY IN KINNEY AND MAVERICK
COUNTIES WHERE UP TO 4 INCHES OF RAIN HAS ALREADY FALLEN. STORM
COVERAGE SHOULD BEGIN TO WEAKEN AND DECREASE BY 9-12Z AS THE
BROADER LOW RETROGRADES INTO MEXICO AND THE NOCTURNAL LLJ WEAKENS
TOWARDS SUNRISE. POP AND WX GRIDS HAVE BEEN UPDATED TO REFLECT
THESE CHANGES. MORE DETAILS ARE GIVEN BELOW....

A SLOW MOVING COMPLEX OF STORMS LOCATED IN EASTERN KINNEY COUNTY
AND EXTENDING SOUTH INTO NORTHERN MAVERICK COUNTY THAT HAD BEEN
PROPGATING EAST IS NOW BEGINNING TO STALL ASIDE FROM A WEAK BOWING
SEGMENT IN WESTERN ZAVALA COUNTY. NEW CELL DEVELOPMENT IS ALSO
OCCURRING ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THIS LINE JUST SOUTH OF EAGLE
PASS INTO MEXICO...AND THIS MAY SET UP A LINE OF TRAINING STORMS
THAT WILL DUMP AN ADDITIONAL 1-3 INCHES OF RAIN WITH ISOLATED
SPOTS OF AN ADDITIONAL 4-5 INCHES POSSIBLE. THIS IS IN ADDITION TO
WIDESPREAD 2-3 INCHES OF RAIN WITH ISOLATED 4-5 INCH TOTALS THAT
HAS FALLEN OVER THE SOUTHERN HALF OF KINNEY COUNTY AND NW CORNER
OF MAVERICK COUNTY. MUCH OF THE WATER THAT HAS FALLEN THUS FAR
WILL DRAIN SOUTH TOWARDS EAGLE PASS WITHIN 10 MILES OF THE RIO
GRANDE. THUS...SIGNIFICANT FLASH FLOODING WILL BE POSSIBLE IN
SOUTHERN KINNEY COUNTY AND THE NORTHERN HALF OF MAVERICK COUNTY
ALL THE WAY TO EAGLE PASS AS ADDITIONAL RAINFALL FALLS UPSTREAM
WITH TRAINING SHOWERS DEVELOPING TO THE SOUTH.

THE CURRENT RAINFALL TRENDS EXTEND FURTHER EAST THAN ALL MODEL
GUIDANCE...THOUGH THE 12Z EURO AND LATEST FEW RUNS OF THE HRRR
HAVE HANDLED THINGS RELATIVELY WELL. IN GENERAL...A STRONG 20-30
KT SOUTHEASTERLY LLJ MOVING UP THE RIO GRANDE IN AN AREA OF WEAK
ISENTROPIC ASCENT SHOULD CONTINUE TO FEED LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE WITH
1.7-1.8 INCH PWATS INTO THE AREA TO SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT OF NEW
TRAINING CELLS. A WEAK MCV CIRCULATION MAY BE TRYING TO SET UP
OVER SE KINNEY-NE MAVERICK COUNTY...AND THIS WILL HAVE TO BE
WATCHED AS WELL SINCE THIS WOULD RESULT IN ADDITIONAL INFLOW
FEEDING INTO NEW STORM DEVELOPMENT INTO MAVERICK COUNTY AND
COAHUILA MEXICO. THE WESTERN PARTS OF ZAVALA AND UVALDE COUNTIES
WILL HAVE TO BE WATCHED AS WELL AS THIS STORM SLIDES FURTHER EAST.

SCATTERED TO WIDESPREAD CONVECTION CONTINUES TO FORM OVER MUCH OF
VAL VERDE AND TERRELL COUNTIES AND COAHUILA MEXICO DUE TO PVA
FROM THE UPPER LEVEL LOW OFF TO THE WEST. IT DOES APPEAR THAT THIS
LOW HAS BEGUN TO RETROGRADE SLIGHTLY TO THE WEST...BUT IT SHOULD
STILL PROVIDE ENOUGH PVA AT MIDLEVELS TO SUPPORT LIFT FROM A
BROADER PERSPECTIVE. THIS WILL RESULT IN WIDESPREAD STRATIFORM
RAINFALL WITH EMBEDDED CONVECTION IN VAL VERDE AND EDWARDS
COUNTIES THAT MAY CAUSE MINOR FLOODING AS WELL...AND WILL PROVIDE
ADDITIONAL SUPPORT TO THE FAVORABLE LOW LEVEL MESOSCALE CONDITIONS
FURTHER SOUTHEAST. THIS SUPPORT WILL GRADUALLY DECREASE AS THE
BROADER LOW MOVES FURTHER WEST BY 9-12Z.
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#743 Postby Brent » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:01 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Brent wrote:Shoot I know people who have lived here longer than me who love warmth...

I don't get it.


Who knows maybe it's like a rubber band. It just keeps stretching and waiting and waiting, maybe it will snap and we skip fall to winter :lol:. Certainly don't mind a 1993 late October redux


You know the longer it drags on... the more I wonder if that might happen. :lol:

What is the deal with this? Nice spot of below normal over Texas. :roll:

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#744 Postby Ntxw » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:26 pm

:uarrow: That doesn't look like a forecast, it says low frequency analogs of set years picked
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Re: Texas Fall-2015

#745 Postby JDawg512 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:08 am

Seems like the storm complex may be putting a bit of a dent into the stable airmass over Central Texas. At least for the Hill Country which is a good thing. I'm not expecting to see it reach Austin but would be nice to be pleasantly surprised.

Despite the likelyhood that it will not make it here I'm glad that it's further east than what was forecast.
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Re: Texas Fall-2015

#746 Postby Brent » Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:22 am

0z GFS has a pattern change around day 10...

no rain, but MUCH cooler temps... highs in the low/mid 70s and some lows into the 40s for DFW starting around October 19th.

and yes... I'm getting desperate but it HAS to end. It just has to.

Euro seems to agree with the falling thicknesses:

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#747 Postby gboudx » Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:23 am

Summer is seeking balance. It didn't get to start in May and June like it normally does.
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#748 Postby TheProfessor » Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:23 am

:uarrow: The first half of July didn't feel like Summer I believe either, I remember 4th of July being quite comfortable.
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#749 Postby weatherdude1108 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:26 am

One of the local mets mentioned the rain and lacketherof in this part of the state. So ironic with all of that soaking rain we could not keep away in May and June. :roll:
I know we are just now coming into mid-October. Maybe mid-October will cross a rain/temperature threshold. God knows most of us in Texas are wishing/hoping/praying for it.


The rain turned off as soon as July began and hasn't really picked back up since. This is the 7th driest summer on record (July, August, September) for Camp Mabry.

Most of the rain energy is staying towards Del Rio, Eagle Pass and Loredo. Eagle Pass actually picked up nearly 6 inches of rain with this storm which caused flooding for that part of Texas. This morning we had a few light showers in Gillespie county near Fredericksburg. It doesn't look like much of that will track east unfortunately. The newest drought monitor shows our summer drought expanding.


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Re: Texas Fall-2015

#750 Postby CaptinCrunch » Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:39 am

last night on the 6pm news our local weather personalities showed the large area of low pressure off the Alaskan coast and stated till that low moves on it will keep this warm pattern in place. On the bright side that low is producing lot's of snow cover up there and will help in maintaining cold highs as they dip down into the U.S later into this Winter.

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#751 Postby dhweather » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:01 am

This is incredible - and it WAS going to come this way, until ridge jr said no.

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Re: Texas Fall-2015

#752 Postby dhweather » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:07 am

0Z GFS - things stay the same.

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Re: Texas Fall-2015

#753 Postby weatherdude1108 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:09 am

dhweather wrote:This is incredible - and it WAS going to come this way, until ridge jr said no.

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:uarrow:
I could easily take 5 inches. I think 10 inches may be too much of a good thing. :wink:

Just not fair! Hmmm. :roll:

Guess that's what happens when the systems aren't moving. One place dries out completely, the other place gets deluged and floods. I guess the subtropical jet isn't kicking in yet to "cattle prod" these systems to get moving.
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Re: Texas Fall-2015

#754 Postby dhweather » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:12 am

6Z isn't any better

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Re: Texas Fall-2015

#755 Postby dhweather » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:16 am

10 days, basically nothing.

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#756 Postby Ralph's Weather » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:23 am

I still can't figure out how the GFS can have DPs in the 20s and lows in the 60s for the middle of next week. That would seem to require a fast flow out of the SW, but even that isn't right because Mexico is moist from El Nino. Either we will get a good but brief cooldown or the front will stall to the north. I have been avoiding the models until this summer pattern breaks, but I may have to take a look at what the GFS is seeing to produce this output.
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Re: Texas Fall-2015

#757 Postby TheProfessor » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:53 am

dhweather wrote:10 days, basically nothing.
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... _us_40.png


The one area that doesn't need rain in the U.S would get the most :roll: and even that wouldn't be a lot.
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#758 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:41 am

Looks like the snow is building in siberia nicely. Keep it going!!!
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Re: Texas Fall-2015

#759 Postby dhweather » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:35 pm

12Z GFS - more of the same


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Re: Texas Fall-2015

#760 Postby wxman57 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:47 pm

dhweather wrote:12Z GFS - more of the same

http://s5.postimg.org/4kajuimmf/2015_10 ... _36_pm.png


But note the sub-30F dewpoints by next Wednesday. More of a Pacific front. And nearly .02" of rain over the next 10 days.
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