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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:13 am
by dhweather
weatherdude1108 wrote:This really is depressing. What gives??

Bob Rose:

http://www.lcra.org/water/river-and-wea ... ather.aspx



The beatings will continue until morale improves. :lol:


Crazy year so far, we went from beneficial amounts of rainfall to profound drought pretty quickly. Hard to believe that we did not enter the top 10 records from most consecutive days without precipitation in 2011, yet recorded 40 consecutive 100 degree days.

July-August-September of this year is rivaling 2011, just not in the number of days of triple digit temps. More humid this year versus 2011, but once you add in the heat index and lack of rain, there's not much difference between the two.

I cannot imagine how horrible things would be right now had we not received all the rain we did in March-April-May , most lakes would likely be at all time lows.

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:34 am
by Ntxw
:uarrow: You are kidding right? 2011 was the hottest summer on record, this year does not even crack the top 10 or 15. This year isn't even as hot as 2012 or 2010. It is not even close or on the same planet, you are talking 2-5F average difference for a 90 day period.

August 2011 was over 90F for an average, we can get some 115F days and it still would not catch it

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:38 pm
by weatherdude1108
:uarrow:
Yeah, dhweather is right. We need to improve morale around here.

Molds and mosquito populations are way down!! :D

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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:47 pm
by weatherdude1108
South Texas Storms wrote:
weatherdude1108 wrote:This really is depressing. What gives??

Bob Rose:

http://www.lcra.org/water/river-and-wea ... ather.aspx


We just need to be patient for a few more weeks until the subtropical jet associated with El Nino starts up. I'm thinking by late September or October we should start seeing regular rainfall events across the state.


Thanks South Texas Storms. I was wondering when the subtropical jet usually starts. I know I'm being impatient. Just tired/bummed out of watering plants and watching the water literally drain into the abyss of the soil cracks.

I saw a story yesterday about flash droughts popping up across east Texas, but west Texas is still drought free. We're not in either east or west Texas, but I can testify that flash drought seems to encompass this part of (Central/South) Texas also.

http://lubbockonline.com/local-news/201 ... cQlQ.email

I keep the watering down to once a week per city rules (with allowed supplemental hand-watering as needed). Doesn't make much of a difference in 100-degree heat, but it's a little something while we wait for the beneficial rains.
:wink:

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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:04 pm
by dhweather
Ntxw wrote::uarrow: You are kidding right? 2011 was the hottest summer on record, this year does not even crack the top 10 or 15. This year isn't even as hot as 2012 or 2010. It is not even close or on the same planet, you are talking 2-5F average difference for a 90 day period.

August 2011 was over 90F for an average, we can get some 115F days and it still would not catch it



Carefully read what I said ... add in the heat index and the lack of rain ...

In the last 31 days, I've recorded heat indexes at home:

100+ 29 times
110+ 13 times


2015 - top 3 all time driest stretch, 2011 did not crack the top 10


In actual temperature, 2011 reigns supreme, I'm not challenging that at all. What I am saying, comfort wise, drought wise, it has been pretty miserable in July & August. In 2011 I had 2" wide cracks in my yard, I have them today.

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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:10 pm
by dhweather
weatherdude1108 wrote::uarrow:
Yeah, dhweather is right. We need to improve morale around here.

Molds and mosquito populations are way down!! :D



Amen to that, the mosquitoes were brutal in May & June, and have significantly dropped off in numbers since.

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:24 pm
by WeatherNewbie
this is not even remotely close to 2011...

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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:30 pm
by Tireman4
WeatherNewbie wrote:this is not even remotely close to 2011...


I agree. Not even close. I have grass. During 2011, I did not...

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:57 pm
by Ntxw
2011 drought wise was a million times worse than this summer across the state. The drought maps then clearly show it. 2011 was hot and dry starting into the winter through summer. Believe it or not the humidity (high dews) this year is considered cold air advection in the summer from the gulf, without it we would've been hotter. It feels worse to us yes but it is what kept it from running away.

It has been dry for a long stretch no doubt, top 5 for summertime. But summer is your typical dry season, a wet fall can eliminate it very easily if it comes to fruition. As we saw lakes react strongest in the two wet seasons; spring and fall. Rains then are most important.

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:29 pm
by Ntxw
Speaking of warm, Euro brings in pac nw trof which means its going to stay warm through next week...fall cant come fast enough

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:31 pm
by TheProfessor
Today was a toasty 76 degrees with sun! 8-) , much better than the 63 degrees we had the past 3 days :cold:

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:31 pm
by dhweather
No kidding ntxw - one primary difference in the two years is mostly SW winds in 2011, SE winds in 2015. One passes over the deserts of Mexico, the other over the Gulf.

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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:41 pm
by Tireman4
TheProfessor wrote:Today was a toasty 76 degrees with sun! 8-) , much better than the 63 degrees we had the past 3 days :cold:


Notice how he throws these nuggets in.......oh you are a hoot sir....

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:44 pm
by Tireman4
I am going with climo. It has to end soon. Ntwx knows this..the grizzled veteran he is...I am thinking September 25...

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:07 pm
by weatherdude1108
Interesting how the QPF changes from one model run to the next. Silly donut hole again over 2/3 of the state. But we shouldn't put so much faith in the models. Shame on us! :cheesy:

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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:10 pm
by Ntxw
By winter heat miser might get a recruit in TheProfessor tireman...voodoo..gotta watch him.

We do need lots of rain then next 6-10 months. Big El Nino's, especially super nino's, flip to La Nina's the next year. Its the ocean's way of keeping balance. If that does happen we will need to conserve water and plan well ahead now.

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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:57 pm
by South Texas Storms
weatherdude1108 wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:
weatherdude1108 wrote:This really is depressing. What gives??

Bob Rose:

http://www.lcra.org/water/river-and-wea ... ather.aspx


We just need to be patient for a few more weeks until the subtropical jet associated with El Nino starts up. I'm thinking by late September or October we should start seeing regular rainfall events across the state.


Thanks South Texas Storms. I was wondering when the subtropical jet usually starts. I know I'm being impatient. Just tired/bummed out of watering plants and watching the water literally drain into the abyss of the soil cracks.

I saw a story yesterday about flash droughts popping up across east Texas, but west Texas is still drought free. We're not in either east or west Texas, but I can testify that flash drought seems to encompass this part of (Central/South) Texas also.

http://lubbockonline.com/local-news/201 ... cQlQ.email

I keep the watering down to once a week per city rules (with allowed supplemental hand-watering as needed). Doesn't make much of a difference in 100-degree heat, but it's a little something while we wait for the beneficial rains.
:wink:


Oh I agree weatherdude. The rain can't come soon enough. But there is still pretty high confidence that we will see above average rainfall starting this fall and continuing through next spring.

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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:22 pm
by TheProfessor
Ntxw wrote:By winter heat miser might get a recruit in TheProfessor tireman...voodoo..gotta watch him.

We do need lots of rain then next 6-10 months. Big El Nino's, especially super nino's, flip to La Nina's the next year. Its the ocean's way of keeping balance. If that does happen we will need to conserve water and plan well ahead now.


No you don't have to worry about heat miser recruiting me in the winter time, I just don't want highs in the 60s in August and apparently people up here don't like it either. Come Winter time I'm all for -15 degrees and 24 inches of snow.

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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:05 pm
by Tireman4
TheProfessor wrote:
Ntxw wrote:By winter heat miser might get a recruit in TheProfessor tireman...voodoo..gotta watch him.

We do need lots of rain then next 6-10 months. Big El Nino's, especially super nino's, flip to La Nina's the next year. Its the ocean's way of keeping balance. If that does happen we will need to conserve water and plan well ahead now.


No you don't have to worry about heat miser recruiting me in the winter time, I just don't want highs in the 60s in August and apparently people up here don't like it either. Come Winter time I'm all for -15 degrees and 24 inches of snow.


You say that now Young Jedi...lol....Wxman 57 has his ways...ask Porta..

Re: Texas Summer-2015

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:38 pm
by Ntxw
For fun I pulled up some records for Columbus, Ohio

Coldest temperature ever recorded: -22 January 19, 1994
Hottest temperature ever recorded: 106 July 14, 1936

Top 10 snowiest seasons

1. 67.8" 1909-1910
2. 62.4" 1880-1881
3. 54.1" 1977-1978/1995-1996
4. 50.6" 2002-2003
5. 48.5" 2009-2010
6. 46.6" 1966-1967
7. 45.8" 2013-2014
9. 45.3" 2007-2008
10. 44.2" 1969-1970

Largest single storm snowfall record: 20.4" March 8, 2008