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Re: Texas Spring 2023

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:17 pm
by Edwards Limestone
HockeyTx82 wrote:


Is it me or will that water tower leave a hole in the radar?

Seems like odd placement.


It'll be installed at the top of the water tower I believe.

Re: Texas Spring 2023

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:18 pm
by Ntxw
South Texas Storms wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:
rwfromkansas wrote:Looks like Larry Cosgrove is going warmer for March and basically saying winter is done.


https://m1o.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gfs/2023022812/360/sn10_acc-imp.us_sc.png


Some ensemble guidance has trended more towards a colder pattern by the middle part of March, likely due to the SSW event a few weeks ago. In fact, the 12z Euro Ensemble has the 1 inch mean snowfall contour down to Abilene over the next 15 days. I don't think winter is over for us yet.


This works with Springs that transition to El Nino, in particular within a broader -PDO regime. They tend to be chilly. Years like 1963, 1997, 2002, and 2009 most featured a cold March or April or both. The atmospheric circulations that drives the transition to +ENSO tends to do this.

What happens the next two months has a big impact on Summer. Last year March and April were heavily ++SOI with lots of warmth and dry periods that led to a strong feedback. We can do the opposite if it is cool and wet.

Re: Texas Spring 2023

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:18 pm
by rwfromkansas
bubba hotep wrote:
rwfromkansas wrote:Looks like Larry Cosgrove is going warmer for March and basically saying winter is done.


https://m1o.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gfs/2023022812/360/sn10_acc-imp.us_sc.png


I will take it. How much do I have to pay?

I was confused a bit at Larry's post since I swore before he was on board with a cooler March.

Re: Texas Spring 2023

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:25 pm
by cstrunk


That's great news - but dang, Hugo, OK would have been a much better location to fill that radar hole, IMO!

Re: Texas Spring 2023

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:55 pm
by bubba hotep

Re: Texas Spring 2023

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:15 pm
by Iceresistance
cstrunk wrote:


That's great news - but dang, Hugo, OK would have been a much better location to fill that radar hole, IMO!


I thought of that too, but Durant is larger compared to Hugo. They had the money to do it.

Re: Texas Spring 2023

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 7:16 pm
by Iceresistance

Re: Texas Spring 2023

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:31 pm
by bubba hotep
From mid-Feb in the Winter thread:

bubba hotep wrote:
-NAO that I talked about a few days ago is finally starting to show up in modeling. Then the Euro Weeklies also take the AO & WPO negative in March. The only thing holding back an Epic March is the EPO. I think we will get an EPO push and we should see 1-2 weeks of legit winter wx in March.


With this kind of EPO dump, I would expect temps to trend colder as we get closer to the event. The EPS is also starting to light up the 12-14th with a decent snow signal for the Southern Plains.

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Re: Texas Spring 2023

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:06 pm
by Cpv17
bubba hotep wrote:From mid-Feb in the Winter thread:

bubba hotep wrote:
-NAO that I talked about a few days ago is finally starting to show up in modeling. Then the Euro Weeklies also take the AO & WPO negative in March. The only thing holding back an Epic March is the EPO. I think we will get an EPO push and we should see 1-2 weeks of legit winter wx in March.


With this kind of EPO dump, I would expect temps to trend colder as we get closer to the event. The EPS is also starting to light up the 12-14th with a decent snow signal for the Southern Plains.

https://i.ibb.co/0G49xcC/MarchEPO.png


Dang! That’s impressive.

Re: Texas Spring 2023

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:09 pm
by cheezyWXguy
Notable shifts west with the 18z gfs, 0z nam and 0z hrrr on Thursday’s system. Skew Ts/hodographs look sufficient now for at least isolated tornadoes and more than sufficient for large hail in central and eastern Texas

Re: Texas Spring 2023

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:02 am
by txtwister78
bubba hotep wrote:From mid-Feb in the Winter thread:

bubba hotep wrote:
-NAO that I talked about a few days ago is finally starting to show up in modeling. Then the Euro Weeklies also take the AO & WPO negative in March. The only thing holding back an Epic March is the EPO. I think we will get an EPO push and we should see 1-2 weeks of legit winter wx in March.


With this kind of EPO dump, I would expect temps to trend colder as we get closer to the event. The EPS is also starting to light up the 12-14th with a decent snow signal for the Southern Plains.

https://i.ibb.co/0G49xcC/MarchEPO.png


That would be something. Definitely a much colder signal relative to the averages per the Euro ENS, but outside of the Panhandle region, I just think it's going to take that and probably a little more in the form of a dynamic driven ULL in order to deliver a real March Madness Texas "Lotto" snow shocker in the middle of March, but hey I hope it happens. I'd love to be wrong on that front in a few weeks. Talk about ending/transitioning out of three consecutive years of a La Nina with a bang.

Re: Texas Spring 2023

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:22 am
by HockeyTx82
Well I guess we can expect doomsday tomorrow. Looks pretty bad for a large swath of Texas.

Can't wait for all of the apocalyptic model runs to be blasted out.

Re: Texas Spring 2023

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:02 am
by rwfromkansas
Um, severe storms this morning? Wasn’t expecting rain at all.

Re: Texas Spring 2023

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:03 am
by Iceresistance
Moderate Risk tomorrow just east of DFW.

Re: Texas Spring 2023

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:16 am
by bubba hotep
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Re: Texas Spring 2023

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:16 am
by bubba hotep
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Re: Texas Spring 2023

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:22 am
by WacoWx
Radar is down in FW, but it sure looks ugly outside in Las Colinas. Thunder off in the distance is persistent.

Re: Texas Spring 2023

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:23 am
by bubba hotep
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Re: Texas Spring 2023

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:24 am
by Iceresistance
Thunderstorm Watch up for DFW, I didn't think anyone expected that.

Re: Texas Spring 2023

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:26 am
by HockeyTx82
Iceresistance wrote:Thunderstorm Watch up for DFW, I didn't think anyone expected that.


OMG it's happening