Texas Spring 2013

U.S. & Caribbean Weather Discussions and Severe Weather Events

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Forum rules

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K.

Help Support Storm2K
Message
Author
User avatar
Ntxw
Storm2k Moderator
Storm2k Moderator
Posts: 22784
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:34 pm
Location: DFW, Texas

Re:

#161 Postby Ntxw » Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:51 pm

weatherdude1108 wrote:NOT what I would like to see for Spring. :x :roll: :cry:

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/p ... php?lead=1


I dug a little deeper into the enso and pdo/amo indexes. Like I've stated before in the tropical thread last year and a couple times in the winter thread, even with El Nino or a hurricane hit it's only going to be relief for a couple of months and maybe a year until the cold PDO/+AMO wins out in the background. I do think 2011 was the peak of the drought/warmth but the steady course still goes on. We are riding the 1950s train for the next 4-8 years until the AMO flips.
0 likes   
The above post and any post by Ntxw is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including Storm2k. For official information, please refer to NWS products.

  Help support Storm2K!
Help Support Storm2K

User avatar
South Texas Storms
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 4224
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:28 am
Location: Houston, TX

Re: Texas Spring 2013

#162 Postby South Texas Storms » Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:09 pm

:uarrow:

Do you think after the AMO flips in 4-8 years we may go back into a wet period like the 1950s?
0 likes   

User avatar
Ntxw
Storm2k Moderator
Storm2k Moderator
Posts: 22784
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:34 pm
Location: DFW, Texas

Re: Texas Spring 2013

#163 Postby Ntxw » Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:19 pm

South Texas Storms wrote::uarrow:

Do you think after the AMO flips in 4-8 years we may go back into a wet period like the 1950s?


Not sure, I'm not convinced the AMO has that big an influence on precipitation in Texas. I do think it does regarding heat, which we know can aggravate drought already caused by the cold PDO.
0 likes   
The above post and any post by Ntxw is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including Storm2k. For official information, please refer to NWS products.



  Help support Storm2K!

Help Support Storm2K


User avatar
South Texas Storms
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 4224
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:28 am
Location: Houston, TX

Re: Texas Spring 2013

#164 Postby South Texas Storms » Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:52 pm

Ntxw wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote::uarrow:

Do you think after the AMO flips in 4-8 years we may go back into a wet period like the 1950s?


Not sure, I'm not convinced the AMO has that big an influence on precipitation in Texas. I do think it does regarding heat, which we know can aggravate drought already caused by the cold PDO.



So does the PDO have a greater influence on Texas precipitation than the AMO?
0 likes   

User avatar
Ntxw
Storm2k Moderator
Storm2k Moderator
Posts: 22784
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:34 pm
Location: DFW, Texas

Re: Texas Spring 2013

#165 Postby Ntxw » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:35 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:So does the PDO have a greater influence on Texas precipitation than the AMO?


I have little doubt it does! Our storms come from the Pacific, Atlantic systems go to Europe! It's not just the cold PDO alone, freak Ninas in the Pacific can bring extreme heat and drought even in the warm PDO (1936, 1988, 2005) so there's a very high correlation of the Pacific and precipitation to Texas compared to the AMO warm or cold. It just seems that when you add the +AMO it gets hotter. I'll have to look more into temperature correlation with the AMO.
0 likes   
The above post and any post by Ntxw is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including Storm2k. For official information, please refer to NWS products.



  Help support Storm2K!

Help Support Storm2K


weatherdude1108
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4228
Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:04 pm
Location: Northwest Austin/Cedar Park, TX

Re: Texas Spring 2013

#166 Postby weatherdude1108 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:20 pm

Ntxw wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:So does the PDO have a greater influence on Texas precipitation than the AMO?


I have little doubt it does! Our storms come from the Pacific, Atlantic systems go to Europe! It's not just the cold PDO alone, freak Ninas in the Pacific can bring extreme heat and drought even in the warm PDO (1936, 1988, 2005) so there's a very high correlation of the Pacific and precipitation to Texas compared to the AMO warm or cold. It just seems that when you add the +AMO it gets hotter. I'll have to look more into temperature correlation with the AMO.


I'll just pray we get tropical storms in the right areas and a few Ninos over the next 4-8 years to get us through this cold PDO that is like a big bully. :P
0 likes   

User avatar
Ptarmigan
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 5313
Joined: Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:06 pm

Re: Texas Spring 2013

#167 Postby Ptarmigan » Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:21 am

Ntxw wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote::uarrow:

Do you think after the AMO flips in 4-8 years we may go back into a wet period like the 1950s?


Not sure, I'm not convinced the AMO has that big an influence on precipitation in Texas. I do think it does regarding heat, which we know can aggravate drought already caused by the cold PDO.


AMO has more impact on temperature than precipitation. PDO has more impact on precipitation and temperature. Warm AMO and Cool PDO leads to droughts for Texas, like right now or 1950s. Warm PDO and Cool AMO leads to wetter years in Texas like 1980s to late 1990s.
0 likes   

weatherdude1108
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4228
Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:04 pm
Location: Northwest Austin/Cedar Park, TX

#168 Postby weatherdude1108 » Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:15 am

I'm trying this imageshack thing for the first time. Hope it works! Trying to upload pics of the hail at the weatherdude center this past Wednesday during the wee hours.

Image

Image

Image

Image
0 likes   

weatherdude1108
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4228
Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:04 pm
Location: Northwest Austin/Cedar Park, TX

Re: Texas Spring 2013

#169 Postby weatherdude1108 » Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:17 am

SaskatchewanScreamer wrote:
weatherdude1108 wrote:
I have trouble uploading pics onto this site. How do you do use imageshack?

1. Click on preview
2. Click on browse
3. Chose the pic you want to upload
4. Click on Upload
5. Copy and Save Forum Code link
Image
6. Paste that link on the thread reply box.

:uarrow:
Thanks you! I think it worked! :D
0 likes   

SaskatchewanScreamer

#170 Postby SaskatchewanScreamer » Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:35 am

Your very welcome and so good to see some pics from down there :D , and I'm so glad to see you got some moisture . How I wish I could send you a month or two's worth :( that is sitting up here. You just taught me something too. I didn't realize videos could be uploaded to imageshack so I'm trying to do that now.
0 likes   

weatherdude1108
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4228
Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:04 pm
Location: Northwest Austin/Cedar Park, TX

#171 Postby weatherdude1108 » Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:43 am

Found an interesting link about drought:

http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/qadroughts.html
0 likes   
The preceding post is NOT an official forecast, and should not be used as such. It is only the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including storm2k.org. For Official Information please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

User avatar
Ntxw
Storm2k Moderator
Storm2k Moderator
Posts: 22784
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:34 pm
Location: DFW, Texas

Re: Texas Spring 2013

#172 Postby Ntxw » Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:47 pm

It's almost 1pm late March and it's around 48 degrees. Don't see it getting above 50 at this rate. Where is spring?
0 likes   
The above post and any post by Ntxw is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including Storm2k. For official information, please refer to NWS products.



  Help support Storm2K!

Help Support Storm2K


User avatar
jasons2k
Storm2k Executive
Storm2k Executive
Posts: 8245
Age: 51
Joined: Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:32 pm
Location: The Woodlands, TX

#173 Postby jasons2k » Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:25 pm

0 likes   

SaskatchewanScreamer

Re: Texas Spring 2013

#174 Postby SaskatchewanScreamer » Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:11 pm

Ntxw wrote:Where is spring?


:sadly:

You HAVE spring! We HAVE The Day after Tomorrow :sick:
0 likes   

User avatar
Rgv20
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 2466
Age: 38
Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:42 pm
Location: Edinburg/McAllen Tx

Re: Texas Spring 2013

#175 Postby Rgv20 » Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:59 pm

Ntxw wrote:It's almost 1pm late March and it's around 48 degrees. Don't see it getting above 50 at this rate. Where is spring?


In the Rio Grande Valley....had a high of 94 and tomorrow a forecast high of 101 with blowing dust :cry:
0 likes   
The following post is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including storm2k.org For Official Information please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

weatherdude1108
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4228
Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:04 pm
Location: Northwest Austin/Cedar Park, TX

#176 Postby weatherdude1108 » Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:45 am

:uarrow:
Yikes! That is depressing considering it is only third day of SPRING. :roll:
0 likes   

weatherdude1108
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4228
Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:04 pm
Location: Northwest Austin/Cedar Park, TX

#177 Postby weatherdude1108 » Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:48 am

Bob Rose has severe weather tips and a discussion of drought. Nothing new in drought front. :roll:
http://www.lcra.org/water/conditions/we ... olumn.html
0 likes   
The preceding post is NOT an official forecast, and should not be used as such. It is only the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including storm2k.org. For Official Information please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

User avatar
horselattitudesfarm
Category 1
Category 1
Posts: 315
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:55 pm
Location: Asheville, NC (formerly from Dallas, TX)

Re: Re:

#178 Postby horselattitudesfarm » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:50 am

Ntxw wrote:
weatherdude1108 wrote:NOT what I would like to see for Spring. :x :roll: :cry:

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/p ... php?lead=1


I dug a little deeper into the enso and pdo/amo indexes. Like I've stated before in the tropical thread last year and a couple times in the winter thread, even with El Nino or a hurricane hit it's only going to be relief for a couple of months and maybe a year until the cold PDO/+AMO wins out in the background. I do think 2011 was the peak of the drought/warmth but the steady course still goes on. We are riding the 1950s train for the next 4-8 years until the AMO flips.

Only now we are riding it in a state with 6X the population of the 50's all trying to water big thirsty lawns.
0 likes   

User avatar
ravyrn
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1000
Age: 42
Joined: Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:10 am
Location: Alderbranch, TX

Re: Texas Spring 2013

#179 Postby ravyrn » Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:49 pm

Had two bouts of thunder with a little pea sized hail this afternoon in Little Elm, just north of Dallas. Not much rain or hail though.
0 likes   

User avatar
Rgv20
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 2466
Age: 38
Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:42 pm
Location: Edinburg/McAllen Tx

#180 Postby Rgv20 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:49 am

Had a high of 104 at my backyard!! Just getting a little bit of taste of summer in spring :(
0 likes   
The following post is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including storm2k.org For Official Information please refer to the NHC and NWS products.


Return to “USA & Caribbean Weather”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google Adsense [Bot] and 18 guests