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Re: Texas Spring 2017

#1201 Postby weatherdude1108 » Sun May 21, 2017 10:00 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:I feel your pain Dallas friends...San Antonio also missed out on much of the rain today with the front. Every 12z model I looked at had totals over an inch there today and what did they get? Under .10 inch. :(

And I agree, the models have been extra terrible lately. Not sure what's going on with them, but it's giving us forecasters a headache. :roll:


And the San Antonio area got screwed again today. There's a freakin hole in the rainfall totals right around the city. I hate it when this happens... :cry:

Happy for everyone else who got rain though. Just wish there could be no one who gets left out.


Looks like there is a wave going through the north side of SA right now. They may be getting a dose (?). We got light rain this evening up here in Cedar Park. 1.5 inches since yesterday. High of 76! It is 61 now with a breeze. Downright chilly for May! :cold: :D
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Re: Texas Spring 2017

#1202 Postby Brent » Sun May 21, 2017 10:24 pm

bubba hotep wrote:The 18z Tx Tech run was pretty encouraging for DFW. Pretty much everyone picks up some rain tonight and then tomorrow night a pretty stout MCS plows through the metroplex.


kind of weird, may end up being a bigger deal than Friday ever was around DFW. :lol: Kind of snuck up on me but hey, we need the rain so hopefully it happens.
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Re: Texas Spring 2017

#1203 Postby Brent » Mon May 22, 2017 2:02 am

Actually a decent gentle steady rain here right now even in the northern metroplex... kind of surprised. Have had the window open listening to it rain. :D
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Re: Texas Spring 2017

#1204 Postby Tireman4 » Mon May 22, 2017 9:18 am

Meanwhile, down south...

000
FXUS64 KHGX 221153
AFDHGX

Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Houston/Galveston TX
653 AM CDT Mon May 22 2017

.PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 501 AM CDT Mon May 22 2017/

Forecast remains pretty much on track and made just minor tweaks
to the ongoing package.

An MCV has developed with the large cluster of precip west of
Matagorda Bay. This should continue trekking mostly eastward
today. Surface boundary situated just offshore focused some 5"+
totals overnight. The hope was it would stay there but has since
edged closer to the coast and into the Galveston Bay area.
Convergent zone appears to be setting up from roughly Liberty to
Matagorda Bay. Inflow has really ramped up offshore with sustained
25-30 knot llvl SE winds perpendicular to this zone. Hopefully
the MCV takes a more ese track in the coming hours and pulls this
boundary back offshore. But there`s considerable uncertainty and
with resident 2-2.3" PW`s, felt is was best to issue a short fused
Flash Flood Watch and re-evaluate trends in the coming hours.
Those details are in that product that`s already been sent.

Bulk of precip should be headed off to the east later in the
afternoon and early evening. With the exception of offshore
areas, most of the region should see a break in the action
tonight. Rain and isolated storm chances return Tue aftn and evng
as a cold front makes its way into the region. The remainder of
the work week should be dry in the wake of the front. Pleasant
temps on Wed will gradually modify back into the 70s/90s Thursday
and into the weekend as onshore winds resume. Next shot of rain
looks to be late Sunday or early next week with the approach of
another weak front. 47

&&

.MARINE...
Strong and gusty onshore winds will prevail today into this evening
as low-level jet develops over SE TX. Scattered showers and thunder-
storms are possible thru Tues night as a series of upper level dist-
urbances move in from the west and interacts with left-over surface
boundaries lingering over the region. Models remain on track with a
cold front moving into the coastal waters Tues...with the stronger/
deeper northerly flow not making it into the Gulf until Tues night/
Weds morning. Caution flags may be needed during this time. Onshore
winds are set to return to the area by Weds night and then strength-
ening the rest of the week. 41

&&

.AVIATION...
A very active weather pattern over SE TX this morning that is like-
ly to continue through this afternoon. Current thinking is that the
surface boundary will be lingering mainly south of I-10 through the
rest of the day, acting as a focus for the stronger storms. Will be
keeping with mostly MVFR CIGS and the mention of TSRAs for most TAF
sites south of IAH. For the sites north, going more with VCTS/VCSHs
today. Did hit these northern TAFS a bit harder with patchy fog/low
CIGS tonight/early Tues morning. 41

&&

.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
College Station (CLL) 75 65 80 57 81 / 60 20 50 40 0
Houston (IAH) 77 67 82 60 83 / 90 30 40 40 0
Galveston (GLS) 81 73 82 66 81 / 90 50 30 40 0

&&

.HGX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
TX...Flash Flood Watch until 1 PM CDT this afternoon for the
following zones: Brazoria...Chambers...Fort Bend...
Galveston...Harris...Jackson...Liberty...Matagorda...
Wharton.

GM...Small Craft Advisory until 5 PM CDT this afternoon for the
following zones: Coastal waters from Freeport to the
Matagorda Ship Channel out 20 NM...Coastal waters from High
Island to Freeport out 20 NM...Galveston Bay...Matagorda
Bay...Waters from Freeport to the Matagorda Ship Channel
from 20 to 60 NM...Waters from High Island to Freeport from
20 to 60 NM.

&&

$$
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Re: Texas Spring 2017

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Re: Texas Spring 2017

#1206 Postby ronyan » Mon May 22, 2017 10:19 am

4.50" inches on the gauge and still raining. Not bad.
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Re: Texas Spring 2017

#1207 Postby vbhoutex » Mon May 22, 2017 10:50 am

ronyan wrote:4.50" inches on the gauge and still raining. Not bad.

I wish!! :roll: Only about 0.7" at my place. :( I guess it could be worse and be no rain.
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Re: Texas Spring 2017

#1208 Postby Ralph's Weather » Mon May 22, 2017 12:15 pm

Been raining since the middle of the night here on top of the weekend rain. It's been mainly light though prob around an inch for the event making for around two inches for the month.
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Re: Texas Spring 2017

#1209 Postby GalvestonWXGeek » Mon May 22, 2017 1:07 pm

Crazy weather on beautiful Galveston island this morning. Rain was nice. The wind, not so much. Thought my home was going to fall over. BBQ pit was wrecked and patio furniture tossed about. Saw a photo online of what was described as a funnel cloud on the island. I believe it.
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Re: Texas Spring 2017

#1210 Postby bubba hotep » Mon May 22, 2017 1:58 pm

We've been duped by the HRRR a good bit here lately in DFW but the trend so far today has been to increase the organization and strength of the potential MCS. Latest run has close to 2" at DFW with lighter amounts as you head eastward.
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Re: Texas Spring 2017

#1211 Postby Cpv17 » Mon May 22, 2017 3:01 pm

I'm absolutely loving the latest CPC forecast. Wow, that looks great! Hope it comes to fruition.
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Re: Texas Spring 2017

#1212 Postby Portastorm » Mon May 22, 2017 3:34 pm

bubba hotep wrote:We've been duped by the HRRR a good bit here lately in DFW but the trend so far today has been to increase the organization and strength of the potential MCS. Latest run has close to 2" at DFW with lighter amounts as you head eastward.


Do you use the Texas Tech WRF at all? I'd recommend it. While not perfect, it's beaten the pants off of the HRRR on a number of events I have followed this spring. Granted current setups like we have now where there are mesoscale features in play ... they usually stymie even the short-range, hi res models. But at least in this part of the Texas, the TTU WRF has really done well.
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Re: Texas Spring 2017

#1213 Postby Brent » Mon May 22, 2017 4:11 pm

I can't remember the last time FWD talked about record lows like they are in the AFD today lol
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Re: Texas Spring 2017

#1214 Postby bubba hotep » Mon May 22, 2017 4:19 pm

Portastorm wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:We've been duped by the HRRR a good bit here lately in DFW but the trend so far today has been to increase the organization and strength of the potential MCS. Latest run has close to 2" at DFW with lighter amounts as you head eastward.


Do you use the Texas Tech WRF at all? I'd recommend it. While not perfect, it's beaten the pants off of the HRRR on a number of events I have followed this spring. Granted current setups like we have now where there are mesoscale features in play ... they usually stymie even the short-range, hi res models. But at least in this part of the Texas, the TTU WRF has really done well.


It is one of my favorites with the only drawback being the slow run time. Blending it with the NCAR ensembles has been pretty good. It also was the only model to pickup on the possibility of the brief snow event that we got up here this paat winter. The 18z run from yesterday had the N. Texas MCS for tonight and the HRRR and NAM 3k have been playing catch up today.
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Re: Texas Spring 2017

#1215 Postby vbhoutex » Mon May 22, 2017 4:57 pm

GalvestonWXGeek wrote:Crazy weather on beautiful Galveston island this morning. Rain was nice. The wind, not so much. Thought my home was going to fall over. BBQ pit was wrecked and patio furniture tossed about. Saw a photo online of what was described as a funnel cloud on the island. I believe it.

Will be interesting to find out what NWS comes up with after survey. Reports from public of definite tornado in Jamaica Beach area. NWS will survey and verify. Perhaps contact Hou/Gal NWS with your observations?
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Re: Texas Spring 2017

#1216 Postby bubba hotep » Mon May 22, 2017 7:20 pm

Do these cells build upscale into clusters or MCS?

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Re: Texas Spring 2017

#1217 Postby gboudx » Mon May 22, 2017 7:49 pm

bubba hotep wrote:Do these cells build upscale into clusters or MCS?


I'm going to go with, fool me once, shame on you; fool me 3 times, shame on me. In other words, not a chance. :)
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Re: Texas Spring 2017

#1218 Postby bubba hotep » Mon May 22, 2017 9:04 pm

gboudx wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:Do these cells build upscale into clusters or MCS?


I'm going to go with, fool me once, shame on you; fool me 3 times, shame on me. In other words, not a chance. :)


The 18z TX Tech seemed to key more on the storms up in Oklahoma while the earlier HRRR runs were keying on the cells in NW Texas. The newer HRRR runs kind of split the difference into Meh. The 18z TT kills off the NW Texas cells as they move towards I20, which seems to happening, and the Oklahoma cells build upscale and push into DFW overnight.



ETA: SPC and FWD seem to be in agreement that the cells in Oklahoma will fade before reaching DFW proper.

ETA II: Updated graphic from FWD

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Re: Texas Spring 2017

#1219 Postby Brent » Tue May 23, 2017 2:07 am

Sure some people are having a rude awakening up in Collin County

That bang was pretty loud

Literally in and out in 5 minutes here
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Re: Texas Spring 2017

#1220 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Tue May 23, 2017 7:43 am

We had an isolated severe storm that came through last night that was definitely intense. Seemed to be pretty fast moving, as it was in and out in about 15 min. I lost my weather station in the wind but my neighbor a mile down the road said his registered gusts at 102 mph. Its been a long time since Ive seen wind that strong associated with a storm. Luckily no damage at my house besides the typical tree branches but right down the road has power line poles snapped in half, with estimated power to be restored tomorrow evening or Thursday. I'm not really sure how much rain we received out of it because it was raining sideways for most of the storm and didn't register in my backup rain gauge.
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