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Re: Tornado outbreak possible - March 2-4

#121 Postby brunota2003 » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:03 pm

This is the 30 hour forecast sounding (from GFS for Cherry Point). Someone please put this into layman's terms for me? :lol: Like, what is that showing? I know the line is forecast to roll through during the overnight hours or so. Valid 18Z GFS and is for 7 pm tomorrow:

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This one is for 1 am:

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#122 Postby Bunkertor » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:05 pm

Sounds pretty much smoother than last outlooks
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#123 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:11 pm

CAPE in single digits = nothing at all can get going.
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#124 Postby brunota2003 » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:14 pm

Interesting...yet I'm on the very eastern edge of the 45% for tomorrow.
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#125 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:31 pm

brunota2003 wrote:Interesting...yet I'm on the very eastern edge of the 45% for tomorrow.


Probably the sounding is not timed correctly with the projected activity.
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#126 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:32 pm

New watch - the numbers probably warrant a PDS:

SEL2

URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
TORNADO WATCH NUMBER 92
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
225 PM CST MON MAR 3 2008

THE NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A
TORNADO WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF

SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA
MUCH OF MISSISSIPPI
COASTAL WATERS

EFFECTIVE THIS MONDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING FROM 225 PM UNTIL
1100 PM CST.

TORNADOES...HAIL TO 2 INCHES IN DIAMETER...THUNDERSTORM WIND
GUSTS TO 80 MPH...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE IN THESE
AREAS.

THE TORNADO WATCH AREA IS APPROXIMATELY ALONG AND 80 STATUTE
MILES EAST AND WEST OF A LINE FROM 5 MILES SOUTHEAST OF HOUMA
LOUISIANA TO 55 MILES NORTHEAST OF GREENWOOD MISSISSIPPI. FOR A
COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE THE ASSOCIATED WATCH OUTLINE
UPDATE (WOUS64 KWNS WOU2).

REMEMBER...A TORNADO WATCH MEANS CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE FOR
TORNADOES AND SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IN AND CLOSE TO THE WATCH
AREA. PERSONS IN THESE AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR
THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND LISTEN FOR LATER STATEMENTS
AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS.

OTHER WATCH INFORMATION...CONTINUE...WW 91...

DISCUSSION...THUNDERSTORMS EXPECTED TO INCREASE IN NUMBER AND
INTENSITY ACROSS WRN MS WITH APPROACH OF STRONG UPPER TROUGH.
DEEPENING SURFACE LOW SERN AR WILL TRACK NEWD INTO NRN MS WITH
ENHANCEMENT OF LOW LEVEL SHEAR IN WARM SECTOR ACROSS MUCH OF MS.
SUPERCELLS INCLUDING TORNADOES AND DAMAGING WINDS WILL BECOME LIKELY
BY LATER THIS AFTERNOON AND DEVELOP EWD ACROSS WATCH AREA.

AVIATION...TORNADOES AND A FEW SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH HAIL
SURFACE AND ALOFT TO 2 INCHES. EXTREME TURBULENCE AND SURFACE
WIND GUSTS TO 70 KNOTS. A FEW CUMULONIMBI WITH MAXIMUM TOPS TO
500. MEAN STORM MOTION VECTOR 24040.


...HALES


SEL2

URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
TORNADO WATCH NUMBER 92
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
225 PM CST MON MAR 3 2008

THE NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A
TORNADO WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF

SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA
MUCH OF MISSISSIPPI
COASTAL WATERS

EFFECTIVE THIS MONDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING FROM 225 PM UNTIL
1100 PM CST.

TORNADOES...HAIL TO 2 INCHES IN DIAMETER...THUNDERSTORM WIND
GUSTS TO 80 MPH...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE IN THESE
AREAS.

THE TORNADO WATCH AREA IS APPROXIMATELY ALONG AND 80 STATUTE
MILES EAST AND WEST OF A LINE FROM 5 MILES SOUTHEAST OF HOUMA
LOUISIANA TO 55 MILES NORTHEAST OF GREENWOOD MISSISSIPPI. FOR A
COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE THE ASSOCIATED WATCH OUTLINE
UPDATE (WOUS64 KWNS WOU2).

REMEMBER...A TORNADO WATCH MEANS CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE FOR
TORNADOES AND SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IN AND CLOSE TO THE WATCH
AREA. PERSONS IN THESE AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR
THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND LISTEN FOR LATER STATEMENTS
AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS.

OTHER WATCH INFORMATION...CONTINUE...WW 91...

DISCUSSION...THUNDERSTORMS EXPECTED TO INCREASE IN NUMBER AND
INTENSITY ACROSS WRN MS WITH APPROACH OF STRONG UPPER TROUGH.
DEEPENING SURFACE LOW SERN AR WILL TRACK NEWD INTO NRN MS WITH
ENHANCEMENT OF LOW LEVEL SHEAR IN WARM SECTOR ACROSS MUCH OF MS.
SUPERCELLS INCLUDING TORNADOES AND DAMAGING WINDS WILL BECOME LIKELY
BY LATER THIS AFTERNOON AND DEVELOP EWD ACROSS WATCH AREA.

AVIATION...TORNADOES AND A FEW SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH HAIL
SURFACE AND ALOFT TO 2 INCHES. EXTREME TURBULENCE AND SURFACE
WIND GUSTS TO 70 KNOTS. A FEW CUMULONIMBI WITH MAXIMUM TOPS TO
500. MEAN STORM MOTION VECTOR 24040.


...HALES


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WOUS64 KWNS 032023
WOU2

BULLETIN - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
TORNADO WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE FOR WT 92
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
225 PM CST MON MAR 3 2008

TORNADO WATCH 92 IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1100 PM CST FOR THE
FOLLOWING LOCATIONS

LAC005-007-033-037-045-047-051-057-063-071-075-077-087-089-091-
093-095-099-101-103-105-109-117-121-125-040500-
/O.NEW.KWNS.TO.A.0092.080303T2025Z-080304T0500Z/

LA
. LOUISIANA PARISHES INCLUDED ARE

ASCENSION ASSUMPTION EAST BATON ROUGE
EAST FELICIANA IBERIA IBERVILLE
JEFFERSON LAFOURCHE LIVINGSTON
ORLEANS PLAQUEMINES POINTE COUPEE
ST. BERNARD ST. CHARLES ST. HELENA
ST. JAMES ST. JOHN THE BAPTISTST. MARTIN
ST. MARY ST. TAMMANY TANGIPAHOA
TERREBONNE WASHINGTON WEST BATON ROUGE
WEST FELICIANA


MSC001-005-007-011-013-015-017-019-021-023-025-029-031-035-037-
039-041-043-045-047-049-051-053-055-059-061-063-065-067-069-073-
075-077-079-083-085-087-089-091-095-097-099-101-103-105-109-111-
113-121-123-125-127-129-131-133-135-147-149-151-153-155-157-159-
161-163-040500-
/O.NEW.KWNS.TO.A.0092.080303T2025Z-080304T0500Z/

MS
. MISSISSIPPI COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE

ADAMS AMITE ATTALA
BOLIVAR CALHOUN CARROLL
CHICKASAW CHOCTAW CLAIBORNE
CLARKE CLAY COPIAH
COVINGTON FORREST FRANKLIN
GEORGE GREENE GRENADA
HANCOCK HARRISON HINDS
HOLMES HUMPHREYS ISSAQUENA
JACKSON JASPER JEFFERSON
JEFFERSON DAVIS JONES KEMPER
LAMAR LAUDERDALE LAWRENCE
LEAKE LEFLORE LINCOLN
LOWNDES MADISON MARION
MONROE MONTGOMERY NESHOBA
NEWTON NOXUBEE OKTIBBEHA
PEARL RIVER PERRY PIKE
RANKIN SCOTT SHARKEY
SIMPSON SMITH STONE
SUNFLOWER TALLAHATCHIE WALTHALL
WARREN WASHINGTON WAYNE
WEBSTER WILKINSON WINSTON
YALOBUSHA YAZOO


GMZ455-530-550-555-040500-
/O.NEW.KWNS.TO.A.0092.080303T2025Z-080304T0500Z/

CW

. ADJACENT COASTAL WATERS INCLUDED ARE

COASTAL WATERS FROM LOWER ATCHAFALAYA RIVER TO INTRACOASTAL CITY
LA OUT 20 NM

LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN AND LAKE MAUREPAS

COASTAL WATERS FROM THE SOUTHWEST PASS OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER
TO LOWER ATCHAFALAYA RIVER LA OUT 20 NM

COASTAL WATERS FROM PASCAGOULA MS TO THE SOUTHWEST PASS OF THE
MISSISSIPPI RIVER OUT 20 NM

ATTN...WFO...LIX...LCH...JAN...MEG...MOB...





Note: The Aviation Watch (SAW) product is an approximation to the watch area. The actual watch is depicted by the shaded areas.

SAW2
WW 92 TORNADO LA MS CW 032025Z - 040500Z
AXIS..80 STATUTE MILES EAST AND WEST OF LINE..
5SE HUM/HOUMA LA/ - 55NE GWO/GREENWOOD MS/
..AVIATION COORDS.. 70NM E/W /34NW LEV - 56NW IGB/
HAIL SURFACE AND ALOFT..2 INCHES. WIND GUSTS..70 KNOTS.
MAX TOPS TO 500. MEAN STORM MOTION VECTOR 24040.

LAT...LON 29519194 34049080 34048800 29518927

THIS IS AN APPROXIMATION TO THE WATCH AREA. FOR A
COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE WOUS64 KWNS
FOR WOU2.


Watch 92 Status Report Message has not been issued yet.
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#127 Postby Bunkertor » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:36 pm

Which numbers ?
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#128 Postby brunota2003 » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:37 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
brunota2003 wrote:Interesting...yet I'm on the very eastern edge of the 45% for tomorrow.


Probably the sounding is not timed correctly with the projected activity.

Yeah, I found the text version and was browsing through, it had it at the "42 hour" time (which is like...sometime Wednesday morning).
http://weather.admin.niu.edu/chaser/tempgif/29247.TXT
Risk labeled "None" = Sweat Index
Risk labeled "Showers probable" = Lifted Index and Showalter Index
Risk labeled "Scattered Moderate Thunderstorms" = Total Totals Index
Risk labeled "Scattered Severe Storms" = Energy Index

So overall, I presume that is an "OK" for a severe weather threat?
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#129 Postby Bunkertor » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:10 pm

TORNADO WARNING
LAC079-115-032130-
/O.NEW.KLCH.TO.W.0008.080303T2058Z-080303T2130Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LAKE CHARLES LA
258 PM CST MON MAR 3 2008

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN LAKE CHARLES HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
NORTHWESTERN RAPIDES PARISH IN CENTRAL LOUISIANA...
THIS INCLUDES BOYCE...
NORTHEASTERN VERNON PARISH IN WEST CENTRAL LOUISIANA...
THIS INCLUDES SLAGLE...

* UNTIL 330 PM CST

* AT 255 PM CST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO NEAR SLAGLE...
MOVING EAST AT 45 MPH.

* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
BOYCE BY 325 PM CST...
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A quick look via sat

#130 Postby Bunkertor » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:19 pm

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System calmed down

#131 Postby Bunkertor » Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:21 pm

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#132 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:26 pm

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#133 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:30 pm

How will the large clearing to the east affect things?
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Re: Tornado outbreak possible - March 2-4

#134 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:43 pm

SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSON MS
431 PM CST MON MAR 3 2008

MSC077-085-032300-
/O.CON.KJAN.TO.W.0078.000000T0000Z-080303T2300Z/
LINCOLN MS-LAWRENCE MS-
431 PM CST MON MAR 3 2008

...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 500 PM CST FOR WEST
CENTRAL LAWRENCE AND LINCOLN COUNTIES...

AT 431 PM CST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS CONTINUED TO
TRACK A TORNADO. THIS TORNADO WAS LOCATED 6 MILES SOUTHEAST OF
CENTER POINT...OR 9 MILES NORTH OF MCCOMB...MOVING NORTHEAST AT 35
MPH.

DAMAGE HAS ALREADY BEEN REPORTED WITH STORM IN AMITE COUNTY!

THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
BOGUE CHITTO AND 8 MILES SOUTHEAST OF WEST LINCOLN BY 440 PM CST...
ENTERPRISE AND 9 MILES NORTHWEST OF RUTH BY 445 PM CST...
BROOKHAVEN AND 6 MILES NORTHWEST OF EAST LINCOLN BY 455 PM CST...

IN ADDITION TO THE TORNADO...THIS STORM IS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING
QUARTER SIZE HAIL AND DESTRUCTIVE STRAIGHT LINE WINDS.

THE SAFEST PLACE TO BE DURING A TORNADO IS IN A BASEMENT. GET UNDER A
WORKBENCH OR OTHER PIECE OF STURDY FURNITURE. IF NO BASEMENT IS
AVAILABLE...SEEK SHELTER ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING IN AN
INTERIOR HALLWAY OR ROOM SUCH AS A CLOSET. USE BLANKETS OR PILLOWS TO
COVER YOUR BODY AND ALWAYS STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS.

IF IN MOBILE HOMES OR VEHICLES...EVACUATE THEM AND GET INSIDE A
SUBSTANTIAL SHELTER. IF NO SHELTER IS AVAILABLE...LIE FLAT IN THE
NEAREST DITCH OR OTHER LOW SPOT AND COVER YOUR HEAD WITH YOUR HANDS.

A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1100 PM CST MONDAY EVENING
FOR MISSISSIPPI.

LAT...LON 3136 9062 3146 9063 3167 9043 3150 9013
3145 9020 3144 9020 3134 9033 3135 9036
TIME...MOT...LOC 2231Z 217DEG 29KT 3138 9051

$$

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#135 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:52 pm

Now they are saying "significant" damage in Amite County...
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#136 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:57 pm

2200 UNK 3 E LIBERTY AMITE MS 3116 9075 TREES DOWN...ONE HOME DESTROYED AND SEVERAL HOMES DAMAGED IN EASTERN PORTION OF COUNTY. POSSIBLE TORNADO. REPORTED BY AMITE COUNTY S.O. TIME BASED ON RADAR. (LIX)
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Re: Tornado outbreak possible - March 2-4

#137 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:01 pm

Watch Probs

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Tornadoes
Probability of 2 or more tornadoes
High (80%)

Probability of 1 or more strong (F2-F5) tornadoes
Mod (40%)

Wind
Probability of 10 or more severe wind events
High (80%)


Probability of 1 or more wind events > 65 knots
Mod (40%)

Hail
Probability of 10 or more severe hail events
Mod (40%)

Probability of 1 or more hailstones > 2 inches
Low (20%)

Combined Severe Hail/Wind
Probability of 6 or more combined severe hail/wind events
High (>95%)


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Re: Tornado outbreak possible - March 2-4

#138 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:08 pm

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSON MS
458 PM CST MON MAR 3 2008

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN JACKSON HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
SOUTHEASTERN COPIAH COUNTY IN CENTRAL MISSISSIPPI...
SOUTHWESTERN SIMPSON COUNTY IN CENTRAL MISSISSIPPI...
NORTHERN LAWRENCE COUNTY IN SOUTH CENTRAL MISSISSIPPI...
EASTERN LINCOLN COUNTY IN SOUTH CENTRAL MISSISSIPPI...

* UNTIL 545 PM CST

* AT 458 PM CST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO NEAR
ENTERPRISE...OR 7 MILES SOUTHEAST OF BROOKHAVEN...MOVING NORTHEAST
AT 30 MPH.

THE STORM HAS ALREADY BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE!
* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
SONTAG BY 520 PM CST...
WANILLA BY 525 PM CST...
OMA BY 530 PM CST...
ROCKPORT BY 535 PM CST...

IN ADDITION TO THE TORNADO...THIS STORM IS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING
QUARTER SIZE HAIL AND DESTRUCTIVE STRAIGHT LINE WINDS.

THE SAFEST PLACE TO BE DURING A TORNADO IS IN A BASEMENT. GET UNDER A
WORKBENCH OR OTHER PIECE OF STURDY FURNITURE. IF NO BASEMENT IS
AVAILABLE...SEEK SHELTER ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING IN AN
INTERIOR HALLWAY OR ROOM SUCH AS A CLOSET. USE BLANKETS OR PILLOWS TO
COVER YOUR BODY AND ALWAYS STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS.

IF IN MOBILE HOMES OR VEHICLES...EVACUATE THEM AND GET INSIDE A
SUBSTANTIAL SHELTER. IF NO SHELTER IS AVAILABLE...LIE FLAT IN THE
NEAREST DITCH OR OTHER LOW SPOT AND COVER YOUR HEAD WITH YOUR HANDS.

LAT...LON 3152 9049 3190 9017 3177 8995 3176 8998
3171 8998 3140 9033
TIME...MOT...LOC 2258Z 222DEG 30KT 3153 9034
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#139 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:12 pm

TORNADO WARNING
LAC105-117-MSC113-147-040015-
/O.NEW.KLIX.TO.W.0034.080303T2310Z-080304T0015Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
510 PM CST MON MAR 3 2008

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NEW ORLEANS HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
NORTHERN TANGIPAHOA PARISH IN SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF AMITE...
NORTHWESTERN WASHINGTON PARISH IN SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA...
SOUTHEASTERN PIKE COUNTY IN SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI...
SOUTHWESTERN WALTHALL COUNTY IN SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI...

* UNTIL 615 PM CST

* AT 506 PM CST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO NEAR ROSELAND...
OR NEAR AMITE...MOVING NORTHEAST AT 35 MPH.

* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
6 MILES NORTHWEST OF WILMER AND 6 MILES SOUTHEAST OF KENTWOOD BY
520 PM CST...
MOUNT HERMAN BY 535 PM CST...
TYLERTOWN BY 600 PM CST...

THE SAFEST PLACE TO BE DURING A TORNADO IS UNDER A WORKBENCH OR OTHER
PIECE OF STURDY FURNITURE. SEEK SHELTER ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF THE
BUILDING IN AN INTERIOR HALLWAY OR ROOM SUCH AS A CLOSET. USE
BLANKETS OR PILLOWS TO COVER YOUR BODY AND ALWAYS STAY AWAY FROM
WINDOWS.

IF IN MOBILE HOMES OR VEHICLES...EVACUATE THEM AND GET INSIDE A
SUBSTANTIAL SHELTER. IF NO SHELTER IS AVAILABLE...LIE FLAT IN THE
NEAREST DITCH OR OTHER LOW SPOT AND COVER YOUR HEAD WITH YOUR HANDS.

A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1100 PM CST MONDAY EVENING
FOR SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA AND SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI.

LAT...LON 3118 9027 3117 9007 3100 9003 3067 9053
3070 9057 3072 9056 3091 9056
TIME...MOT...LOC 2310Z 225DEG 32KT 3081 9051

$$

Second storm for an area already hit...
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Re: Tornado outbreak possible - March 2-4

#140 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:21 pm

Yazoo County in a tor warning



quitting time...
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