Need to redefine El Nino for Florida
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Need to redefine El Nino for Florida
Text book definition is for El Nino to bring cooler and wetter conditions to Florida and I'm talking about Central and Southern Florida. North Florida usually gets the same weather as Georgia or Alabama. We have an El Nino and so far its been warm and dry typical of La Nina. I'm no longer putting stock into thinking that El Nino will automatically bring us wet and cooler conditions.
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All it will take is for the subtropical jet to be pushed our way for the rainy pattern to move back into FL, and there is a chance of that happening into the end of next week. Because there is a weak to mod El Nino, doesn't mean that it will be cool and rainy all of the time. I remember many times when I lived in New Orleans during past El Nino winters that while there was cool and rainy weather across the northern gulfcoast, in central and southern FL was most of the times warm & humid because of the positioning of the subtropical jet.
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Today is the 30 year anniversary of the day it snowed in S. Fl. On Jan 19,1977 it SNOWED!
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/16494387.htm
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/16494387.htm

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OK. LETS GET EVERYONES OPINION ON HOW MUCH THIS WILL CHANGE BY THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK AND IF IT WILL HAPPEN AT ALL:
http://www.wunderground.com/DisplayDisc ... Lauderdale
http://www.wunderground.com/DisplayDisc ... Lauderdale

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HURRICANELONNY wrote:OK. LETS GET EVERYONES OPINION ON HOW MUCH THIS WILL CHANGE BY THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK AND IF IT WILL HAPPEN AT ALL:
http://www.wunderground.com/DisplayDisc ... Lauderdale
It will change for the warmer or they'll say the front will hang up at the lake. I have to hand it to them though, they said low thickness values and didn't give an actual low temp for Thurs and Fri in case it backfires on them. NWS Miami is getting smart.
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I can't remember the last time we had a "cold February." I think February might be a bit too late.
I remember some strong cold fronts in February and March, but generally I have never thought of either as a cold month....I'll be very surprised if February is cold beyond the occasional 1-2 day cool hit.
I remember some strong cold fronts in February and March, but generally I have never thought of either as a cold month....I'll be very surprised if February is cold beyond the occasional 1-2 day cool hit.
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I'm not totally sure but was it cool down here the last time the SOI was strongly negative? Say around Thanksgiving?
http://www.longpaddock.qld.gov.au/Seaso ... SOIValues/
http://www.longpaddock.qld.gov.au/Seaso ... SOIValues/
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Re: Need to redefine El Nino for Florida
boca wrote:Text book definition is for El Nino to bring cooler and wetter conditions to Florida and I'm talking about Central and Southern Florida. North Florida usually gets the same weather as Georgia or Alabama. We have an El Nino and so far its been warm and dry typical of La Nina. I'm no longer putting stock into thinking that El Nino will automatically bring us wet and cooler conditions.
how is you weather in florida today ?
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Re: Need to redefine El Nino for Florida
weartherkid wrote:boca wrote:Text book definition is for El Nino to bring cooler and wetter conditions to Florida and I'm talking about Central and Southern Florida. North Florida usually gets the same weather as Georgia or Alabama. We have an El Nino and so far its been warm and dry typical of La Nina. I'm no longer putting stock into thinking that El Nino will automatically bring us wet and cooler conditions.
how is you weather in florida today ?
a little cooler (closer to average day) and a slight drizzle.
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Looks like tomorrow may be one of the coldest so far this winter for the Orlando area...
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/forecast/MapCli ... &map.y=138
highs in the mid 50s with rain seems pretty chilly when compared to the temps. in the 80s you guys have been seeing in Central Florida. Also, it looks like more normal or slightly below normal temps. should follow over the next weeks. Highs in the 60s and 70s and lows in the 40s and 50s (even flirting with the 30s on occassion) must feel like a big change.
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/forecast/MapCli ... &map.y=138
highs in the mid 50s with rain seems pretty chilly when compared to the temps. in the 80s you guys have been seeing in Central Florida. Also, it looks like more normal or slightly below normal temps. should follow over the next weeks. Highs in the 60s and 70s and lows in the 40s and 50s (even flirting with the 30s on occassion) must feel like a big change.
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Re: Need to redefine El Nino for Florida
boca wrote:Text book definition is for El Nino to bring cooler and wetter conditions to Florida and I'm talking about Central and Southern Florida. North Florida usually gets the same weather as Georgia or Alabama. We have an El Nino and so far its been warm and dry typical of La Nina. I'm no longer putting stock into thinking that El Nino will automatically bring us wet and cooler conditions.
nothing is automatic about an El Nino pattern. They are all different. They are just "typical" patterns.
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Extremeweatherguy wrote:Looks like tomorrow may be one of the coldest so far this winter for the Orlando area...
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/forecast/MapCli ... &map.y=138
highs in the mid 50s with rain seems pretty chilly when compared to the temps. in the 80s you guys have been seeing in Central Florida. Also, it looks like more normal or slightly below normal temps. should follow over the next weeks. Highs in the 60s and 70s and lows in the 40s and 50s (even flirting with the 30s on occassion) must feel like a big change.
Not just the cooler wx, but a rainy pattern getting started for the FL Peninsula for the next week or two at least, as I pointed out last week, seems that every 3-4 days a disturbance will be tracking out of the Gulf through the peninsula.
S FL will get into this as well.
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