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Cosgrove refuses to acknowledge his bust(for the most part)

#1 Postby Guest » Fri Dec 05, 2003 6:39 am

Claims even now predictions are being over estimated and will DERAIL(LOL), pushes the idea of storm not really getting act together til off CANADA Maritimes, states it was an unusual set of circumstances forming the storm off lower MA coast which models could not get a decent grip on,...storm is not a major feature,.. maybe dry air coming in?, ..warm air on east side changing populated communitities to rain,.. blah blah bla blah blah..Face it Coz, you BUSTED!!LOL!
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#2 Postby mulen » Fri Dec 05, 2003 6:42 am

Talk about da' nile and it's not a river in Egypt LOL. I'm happy i bought those new sled's for the kid's see ya
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#3 Postby Steve H. » Fri Dec 05, 2003 7:15 am

A former LI'der, how much ya think eastern Nassau county will see with this (north Shore). Seems that NWS says 4 - 6 eastern LI, 6 - 8 western LI and NYC. Seems light to me since BOX is calling for 1 - 2 feet NW of Boston metro. Granted, the storm will be deepening as it pulls NE, but think western LI will see more, especially since it should stay MOSTLY snow there. Got a brother going down to Manhattan today for a broadway show Saturday night. If its 4 - 6 I'll tell him to go for it. If its a foot+, I'll tell him to stay home. Thoughts please
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One bite at a time

#4 Postby NoVaSnow » Fri Dec 05, 2003 7:25 am

He seems to be eating his crow very slowly.

I measured 5 inches as of 6 am in Centreville, VA, just south of IAD.

Drove into DC, where there is about a half inch on car tops and grass.
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HEAVY SNOW amounts in Northern VA so far

#5 Postby Guest » Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:05 am

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
SPOTTER REPORTS
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC
730 AM EST FRI DEC 05 2003

NEW STORM TIME/DATE COMMENTS
LOCATION SNOW TOTAL
MARYLAND

...BALTIMORE...
CATONSVILLE 7.8 0600 AM 12/05

...HARFORD...
FALLSTON 5.0 0700 AM 12/05

...HOWARD...
COLUMBIA 2.2 0310 AM 12/05

...MONTGOMERY...
DAMASCUS 7.5 0630 AM 12/05
DARNESTOWN 6.0 0600 AM 12/05
GAITHESBURG 5.0 0630 AM 12/05

VIRGINIA

...AUGUSTA...
COUNTYWIDE 7.0-12.0 0700 AM 12/05

...FAIRFAX...
CENTREVILLE 4.3 0620 AM 12/05

...FAUQUIER...
MARSHALL 8.0 0600 AM 12/05
WARRENTON 7.0 0600 AM 12/05

...FREDERICK...
WINCHESTER 2.0 1235 AM 12/05

...LOUDOUN...
LEESBURG 6.0 0700 AM 12/05
MIDDLEBURG 8.0 0430 AM 12/05
STERLING 6.0 0530 AM 12/05
ASHBURN 9.0 0615 AM 12/05
BLUEMONT 6.0 0715 AM 12/05

...RAPPAHANNOCK...
SPERRYVILLE 7.0 0515 AM 12/05
CASTLETON 8.0 0545 AM 12/05

...ROCKINGHAM...
HARRISONBURG 7.5 0430 AM 12/05

...SHENANDOAH...
NEW MARKET 7.0 0700 AM 12/05
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#6 Postby White_Mtn_Wx » Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:45 am

Went to sleep at 2 am after witnessing the first flakes to fall. Just awoke to about an inch of snow in Western Chester Co., PA.

Thanks for posting that PIS DT. I was pretty shocked to see so many at or above 6". Looks like some of those places(and here too??) could possibly be looking at 2' when all is said and done. Incredible.
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#7 Postby North MD » Fri Dec 05, 2003 9:00 am

I don't get his denial. I had at least 3 or 4 inches when I left the house at 6am. Even at work in downtown Baltimore it is still snowing with some mixing with sleet/rain. There is even a few inches on the city sidewalks.
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#8 Postby JCT777 » Fri Dec 05, 2003 9:11 am

LC can now claim that he came to his senses regarding this storm, even if it was at the last second. Of course, his amounts seem very low - but he will pass that off as him being "conservative".

I for one will be very glad he busted on the low side.
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Re: Cosgrove refuses to acknowledge his bust(for the most pa

#9 Postby donsutherland1 » Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:30 am

LC provided sound reasoning for his ideas. Let's see how things work out. Remember, one can make good assumptions and still sometimes be wrong (and we'll see what happens here).

Overall, LC is a great meteorologist and the outcome of this storm will not take away from that.

Keep in mind, things could still go wrong for the big snowstorm idea, though I believe that the northern Mid-Atlantic and Northeast will see a major snowfall (and my ideas from last night are looking conservative per the latest run of the GFS and ETA; I'll make such changes as necessary per the ECMWF, which I believe temporarily deviated from its earlier solution, and 0Z GFS and ETA). Certainly, the potential exists for a storm that could be comparable to the historic December 11-12, 1960 blizzard for a good portion of the northern Mid-Atlantic and Northeastern U.S. but that potential still needs to be realized.
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Re: HEAVY SNOW amounts in Northern VA so far

#10 Postby WEATHER53 » Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:32 am

DT wrote:PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
SPOTTER REPORTS
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC
730 AM EST FRI DEC 05 2003

NEW STORM TIME/DATE COMMENTS
LOCATION SNOW TOTAL
MARYLAND

...BALTIMORE...
CATONSVILLE 7.8 0600 AM 12/05

...HARFORD...
FALLSTON 5.0 0700 AM 12/05

...HOWARD...
COLUMBIA 2.2 0310 AM 12/05

...MONTGOMERY...
DAMASCUS 7.5 0630 AM 12/05
DARNESTOWN 6.0 0600 AM 12/05
GAITHESBURG 5.0 0630 AM 12/05

VIRGINIA

...AUGUSTA...
COUNTYWIDE 7.0-12.0 0700 AM 12/05

...FAIRFAX...
CENTREVILLE 4.3 0620 AM 12/05

...FAUQUIER...
MARSHALL 8.0 0600 AM 12/05
WARRENTON 7.0 0600 AM 12/05

...FREDERICK...
WINCHESTER 2.0 1235 AM 12/05

...LOUDOUN...
LEESBURG 6.0 0700 AM 12/05
MIDDLEBURG 8.0 0430 AM 12/05
STERLING 6.0 0530 AM 12/05
ASHBURN 9.0 0615 AM 12/05
BLUEMONT 6.0 0715 AM 12/05

...RAPPAHANNOCK...
SPERRYVILLE 7.0 0515 AM 12/05
CASTLETON 8.0 0545 AM 12/05

...ROCKINGHAM...
HARRISONBURG 7.5 0430 AM 12/05

...SHENANDOAH...
NEW MARKET 7.0 0700 AM 12/05


Thanks Dave. Do you have any reports from DC metro such as Wheaton, Silver Spring, Laurel, Bowie, Upper Marlboro, Waldorf, Camp Springs, Springfield, and Dc proper- those general areas that are not 10+ miles north and west of beltway and where perhaps as much as 70% of the DC metro population lives and works. Truely an event-big event in the N & W locations, I said 2" for IAD and they got 5 so that is a bust, I said 0 for DCA and they got 1, and I said up to 6" in farthest n & w areas and there are a few reports of 7"+. However, for where most of the people work and live in and around DC, this has not been a big event. Now if that coastal takes over and dumps another 4"+ over a widespread part, or all, of DC metro than my ideas will have been totally incorrect. At this point, while my ideas have not been good, I do not accept the catergorization that this has been a big event for the entire DC metro area, the overrunning was a lot more than I thought it would be, let's see about the much discussed part 2 monster.
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Re: HEAVY SNOW amounts in Northern VA so far

#11 Postby Guest » Fri Dec 05, 2003 1:15 pm

WEATHER53 wrote:
DT wrote:PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
SPOTTER REPORTS
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC
730 AM EST FRI DEC 05 2003

NEW STORM TIME/DATE COMMENTS
LOCATION SNOW TOTAL
MARYLAND

...BALTIMORE...
CATONSVILLE 7.8 0600 AM 12/05

...HARFORD...
FALLSTON 5.0 0700 AM 12/05

...HOWARD...
COLUMBIA 2.2 0310 AM 12/05

...MONTGOMERY...
DAMASCUS 7.5 0630 AM 12/05
DARNESTOWN 6.0 0600 AM 12/05
GAITHESBURG 5.0 0630 AM 12/05

VIRGINIA

...AUGUSTA...
COUNTYWIDE 7.0-12.0 0700 AM 12/05

...FAIRFAX...
CENTREVILLE 4.3 0620 AM 12/05

...FAUQUIER...
MARSHALL 8.0 0600 AM 12/05
WARRENTON 7.0 0600 AM 12/05

...FREDERICK...
WINCHESTER 2.0 1235 AM 12/05

...LOUDOUN...
LEESBURG 6.0 0700 AM 12/05
MIDDLEBURG 8.0 0430 AM 12/05
STERLING 6.0 0530 AM 12/05
ASHBURN 9.0 0615 AM 12/05
BLUEMONT 6.0 0715 AM 12/05

...RAPPAHANNOCK...
SPERRYVILLE 7.0 0515 AM 12/05
CASTLETON 8.0 0545 AM 12/05

...ROCKINGHAM...
HARRISONBURG 7.5 0430 AM 12/05

...SHENANDOAH...
NEW MARKET 7.0 0700 AM 12/05


Thanks Dave. Do you have any reports from DC metro such as Wheaton, Silver Spring, Laurel, Bowie, Upper Marlboro, Waldorf, Camp Springs, Springfield, and Dc proper- those general areas that are not 10+ miles north and west of beltway and where perhaps as much as 70% of the DC metro population lives and works. Truely an event-big event in the N & W locations, I said 2" for IAD and they got 5 so that is a bust, I said 0 for DCA and they got 1, and I said up to 6" in farthest n & w areas and there are a few reports of 7"+. However, for where most of the people work and live in and around DC, this has not been a big event. Now if that coastal takes over and dumps another 4"+ over a widespread part, or all, of DC metro than my ideas will have been totally incorrect. At this point, while my ideas have not been good, I do not accept the catergorization that this has been a big event for the entire DC metro area, the overrunning was a lot more than I thought it would be, let's see about the much discussed part 2 monster.





Ummm...you said maybe 6" on some mountaintop......6"+ were widespread in Loudoun, Montogomery, Fauqier, and other relatively close in areas....You busted horribly on part 1....sorry......Matt
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Re: HEAVY SNOW amounts in Northern VA so far

#12 Postby Anonymous » Fri Dec 05, 2003 1:36 pm

WEATHER53 wrote:
DT wrote:PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
SPOTTER REPORTS
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC
730 AM EST FRI DEC 05 2003

NEW STORM TIME/DATE COMMENTS
LOCATION SNOW TOTAL
MARYLAND

...BALTIMORE...
CATONSVILLE 7.8 0600 AM 12/05

...HARFORD...
FALLSTON 5.0 0700 AM 12/05

...HOWARD...
COLUMBIA 2.2 0310 AM 12/05

...MONTGOMERY...
DAMASCUS 7.5 0630 AM 12/05
DARNESTOWN 6.0 0600 AM 12/05
GAITHESBURG 5.0 0630 AM 12/05

VIRGINIA

...AUGUSTA...
COUNTYWIDE 7.0-12.0 0700 AM 12/05

...FAIRFAX...
CENTREVILLE 4.3 0620 AM 12/05

...FAUQUIER...
MARSHALL 8.0 0600 AM 12/05
WARRENTON 7.0 0600 AM 12/05

...FREDERICK...
WINCHESTER 2.0 1235 AM 12/05

...LOUDOUN...
LEESBURG 6.0 0700 AM 12/05
MIDDLEBURG 8.0 0430 AM 12/05
STERLING 6.0 0530 AM 12/05
ASHBURN 9.0 0615 AM 12/05
BLUEMONT 6.0 0715 AM 12/05

...RAPPAHANNOCK...
SPERRYVILLE 7.0 0515 AM 12/05
CASTLETON 8.0 0545 AM 12/05

...ROCKINGHAM...
HARRISONBURG 7.5 0430 AM 12/05

...SHENANDOAH...
NEW MARKET 7.0 0700 AM 12/05


Thanks Dave. Do you have any reports from DC metro such as Wheaton, Silver Spring, Laurel, Bowie, Upper Marlboro, Waldorf, Camp Springs, Springfield, and Dc proper- those general areas that are not 10+ miles north and west of beltway and where perhaps as much as 70% of the DC metro population lives and works. Truely an event-big event in the N & W locations, I said 2" for IAD and they got 5 so that is a bust, I said 0 for DCA and they got 1, and I said up to 6" in farthest n & w areas and there are a few reports of 7"+. However, for where most of the people work and live in and around DC, this has not been a big event. Now if that coastal takes over and dumps another 4"+ over a widespread part, or all, of DC metro than my ideas will have been totally incorrect. At this point, while my ideas have not been good, I do not accept the catergorization that this has been a big event for the entire DC metro area, the overrunning was a lot more than I thought it would be, let's see about the much discussed part 2 monster.


obviously you havent seen how many people are out near Western Fairfax, Loudoun County,Montgomery,Faquire now. Last time i checked...IAD is part of the DC metro area --unless suddenly it shrunk to make your forecast look better.
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