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[LehighValleyForcaster]

As I was looking at the models and looking at the build up of snow in Canada.......I was thinking what lies ahead for the Northeast.

As SF and a few others have said..........we may still see a good winter this year.

I was looking at previous snow build up in the past years and I am now thinking that we may see a couple of good storms this winter but not as early as we have been seeing them.

I feel if we start riding in the 40 degree mark during the day and much colder at night..................there should be a good enough chance to really bring in the snow and much colder temps for the Northeast.

I see something like this occuring in the coming month but still yet unsure about it.

I have seen milder temps and no snow dragging out to the end of Dec and then Jan and Feb brought us some very cold temps and snow in the past years.

It somewhat looks like it may go this way this winter and then again it does not look like it will as of today.

I said I would update my thoughts if I feel that some change may be on the horizon.

This would put a late start on winter, even though winter does not officially start until Dec 21, and end sometime in early March, only if events unfold quick enough.

This year kinda reminds me of 1986 when an early spring sprung into action.

There is always a chance winter could end sometime in Feb but unsure, at this time, if that will happen.

If we continue to have milder temps thru this winter season..then we will not see this winter as we know it.

This as well can occur.

So with this in mind and watching the elements pull together and develope, all we can do is wait and hope for the best.

I am getting tired of these warmer temps and would like to see a little winter come our way before spring arrives next year.

[JCT777]

Don't worry - winter will get here. I think it will be pretty cold by late December, and the cold will carry through January and February. Not quite as cold as last year, but not nearly as absent of cold as 2 years ago.

[Josephine96]

One of the things I like about Florida. You never have to worry about snow..

Then again... we got some snow back in January along our coast on the Atlantic side. lol Maybe I'd better eat my words otherwise we'll have a blizzard this year lol

[LMolineux]

Josephine with this current pattern and forecasted patter it would be hard pressed to see snow in Florida this year especially where your at. But this pattern boads well for texas for sure for snow. Kinda the Blue Norther setup. I do believe near or around Houston Texas there will be almost if not measureable snowfall. int he tune of 5 inches to 10 inches total this winter season. I Think Dallas will fair very very well with many snow events. Which in fact will ignite me by making me mad while i am sitting in the low to mid 50's while Dallas is gettign snow.

[roarusdogus]

Josephine with this current pattern and forecasted patter it would be hard pressed to see snow in Florida this year especially where your at. But this pattern boads well for texas for sure for snow. Kinda the Blue Norther setup. I do believe near or around Houston Texas there will be almost if not measureable snowfall. int he tune of 5 inches to 10 inches total this winter season. I Think Dallas will fair very very well with many snow events. Which in fact will ignite me by making me mad while i am sitting in the low to mid 50's while Dallas is gettign snow.

When it comes to Florida getting snow, it's not a matter of overall pattern as much as it can be just a blip in the pattern. What do I mean? The only way Florida is going to get snow(with maybe the exception of the panhandle)is to have a fresh arctic airmass which charges directly at the state. The air will modify quickly, so it would have to snow not long after the cold air arrives. This was the case for Cape Canaveral last winter. That BTW was a very interesting event IMO. Even if the winter features above normal temps in the east, all it takes is one cross polar flow arimass to bring flakes to Florida. You really can't expect much more than if you are in Florida.

[LMolineux]

Josephine with this current pattern and forecasted patter it would be hard pressed to see snow in Florida this year especially where your at. But this pattern boads well for texas for sure for snow. Kinda the Blue Norther setup. I do believe near or around Houston Texas there will be almost if not measureable snowfall. int he tune of 5 inches to 10 inches total this winter season. I Think Dallas will fair very very well with many snow events. Which in fact will ignite me by making me mad while i am sitting in the low to mid 50's while Dallas is gettign snow.

When it comes to Florida getting snow, it's not a matter of overall pattern as much as it can be just a blip in the pattern. What do I mean? The only way Florida is going to get snow(with maybe the exception of the panhandle)is to have a fresh arctic airmass which charges directly at the state. The air will modify quickly, so it would have to snow not long after the cold air arrives. This was the case for Cape Canaveral last winter. That BTW was a very interesting event IMO. Even if the winter features above normal temps in the east, all it takes is one cross polar flow arimass to bring flakes to Florida. You really can't expect much more than if you are in Florida.

True your correct. But i totally forget how much Cape Canaveral got to be exact and wasnt it ocean effect snows off of the atlantic?

[roarusdogus]

It was just flurries but to get snow that far south in Florida is quite impressive. The last time that occured prior to last winter was in 1977. Yes, I believe it was ocean effect snow. That's another thing that made this impressive was fact that the ocean was of course sooooo much warmer than the air. Another reason why it's tough to get snow in Florida.

[opera ghost]

Josephine with this current pattern and forecasted patter it would be hard pressed to see snow in Florida this year especially where your at. But this pattern boads well for texas for sure for snow. Kinda the Blue Norther setup. I do believe near or around Houston Texas there will be almost if not measureable snowfall. int he tune of 5 inches to 10 inches total this winter season. I Think Dallas will fair very very well with many snow events. Which in fact will ignite me by making me mad while i am sitting in the low to mid 50's while Dallas is gettign snow.

I don't think I've ever seen measurable snow in Houston (go here in '91)... that would be totally bizzarre.

[LMolineux]

Josephine with this current pattern and forecasted patter it would be hard pressed to see snow in Florida this year especially where your at. But this pattern boads well for texas for sure for snow. Kinda the Blue Norther setup. I do believe near or around Houston Texas there will be almost if not measureable snowfall. int he tune of 5 inches to 10 inches total this winter season. I Think Dallas will fair very very well with many snow events. Which in fact will ignite me by making me mad while i am sitting in the low to mid 50's while Dallas is gettign snow.

I don't think I've ever seen measurable snow in Houston (go here in '91)... that would be totally bizzarre.

Well as the say goes life is like a box of chocolates ya never know what your gonna get.

But yes odder things have happened and with this pattern i think its almost a sure fire thing that the greater Houston Metro will see some sort of snow event with measurable amounts i might have went crazy saying 5-10 inches but i am sorta going from up to 5 almost for sure. But i was right last winter with florida getting snow.

[ColdFront77]

Josephine with this current pattern and forecasted patter it would be hard pressed to see snow in Florida this year especially where your at. But this pattern boads well for texas for sure for snow. Kinda the Blue Norther setup. I do believe near or around Houston Texas there will be almost if not measureable snowfall. int he tune of 5 inches to 10 inches total this winter season. I Think Dallas will fair very very well with many snow events. Which in fact will ignite me by making me mad while i am sitting in the low to mid 50's while Dallas is gettign snow.

When it comes to Florida getting snow, it's not a matter of overall pattern as much as it can be just a blip in the pattern. What do I mean? The only way Florida is going to get snow(with maybe the exception of the panhandle)is to have a fresh arctic airmass which charges directly at the state. The air will modify quickly, so it would have to snow not long after the cold air arrives. This was the case for Cape Canaveral last winter. That BTW was a very interesting event IMO. Even if the winter features above normal temps in the east, all it takes is one cross polar flow arimass to bring flakes to Florida. You really can't expect much more than if you are in Florida.

Good point. It gets cold enough for snow on a few mornings, typically in January, but the air is usually too dry for it make it to the surface across central Florida.

It is obviously very rare for south-central and southern Florida to have [even] snow flurries.