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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#861 Postby bubba hotep » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:11 am

bubba hotep wrote:It's amazing how stable the D11 Super Ensemble Analog Composite has been over the past week.


More of the same overnight, taking the top years that have been showing up and then rolling them forward through J&F gives you this:

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More of the same.

00z GEFS and EPS 5day mean centered on end of run:

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However, roll those years forward to F&M:

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So, a delayed but not denied winter is still possible. However, winter is over for most of Texas come early March.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#862 Postby Brent » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:08 pm

bubba hotep wrote:So, a delayed but not denied winter is still possible. However, winter is over for most of Texas come early March.


tick tock... :roll:
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#863 Postby TheProfessor » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:28 pm

Not Texas related but something to watch this winter. Over the next couple of weeks the models are dropping a lot of rain over the Mississippi River basin(Specifically the Ohio River and north-central Mississippi River on the GFS) If something like this occurs anywhere in the basin(the latest GFS has over 10 inches following) then we could see another flood year on the Mississippi, which in turn could really mess up fishery and tourism down south. Even if this winter/spring ended up half as bad as last year, it'd still be bad.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#864 Postby Ralph's Weather » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:49 pm

Most similar winters don't really start until after Valentines Day. We can get snow into April so I am not stressing. I have faith that the -PNA will relax vs last winters +PNA.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#865 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:44 pm

Ralph's Weather wrote:Most similar winters don't really start until after Valentines Day. We can get snow into April so I am not stressing. I have faith that the -PNA will relax vs last winters +PNA.


Who gets snow in April, besides the mountains and northern parts of the US? All the possible late winter means is cooler spring temps instead of almost going right into a summer pattern. Nothing extreme or crazy cold.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#866 Postby Brent » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:54 pm

Ralph's Weather wrote:Most similar winters don't really start until after Valentines Day. We can get snow into April so I am not stressing. I have faith that the -PNA will relax vs last winters +PNA.


maybe we'll have something like 14-15 in February/early March but I highly doubt it would snow in April... Dallas has only ever recorded a trace
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#867 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:15 pm

CYCLONE MIKE wrote:
Ralph's Weather wrote:Most similar winters don't really start until after Valentines Day. We can get snow into April so I am not stressing. I have faith that the -PNA will relax vs last winters +PNA.


Who gets snow in April, besides the mountains and northern parts of the US? All the possible late winter means is cooler spring temps instead of almost going right into a summer pattern. Nothing extreme or crazy cold.


Well Texas did 4 years ago.... all the way down to College Station which is in SE Texas.

It’s definitely possible. With that said, my focus isn’t on a anomalous April snow..: it’s on February and first half of March, and we’ve seen ice/snow events all the way to Houston in those times.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#868 Postby Astromanía » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:32 pm

I don't think April will change anything, I think our best chance is JULY but we will see
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#869 Postby harp » Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:09 am

GFS gives us another tease starting about hour 264...
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#870 Postby Brent » Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:11 am

Only 288 hours out! :spam: it's all ice

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#871 Postby wxman57 » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:49 am

Brent wrote:Only 288 hours out! it's all ice

https://i.ibb.co/X3QNNPw/gfs-mslp-pcpn-frzn-scus-48.png


Saw that. 1057mb high dropping out of Canada on the 15th. It keeps trying to show something in Texas around the 15th-16th (various 6Z and 18Z runs mostly). Very shallow sub-freezing with warm air aloft = sleet, mostly. I'm not inclined to believe it as the GFS has been very inconsistent so far out.

Brent - looks like you may see some snow in Tahoe Wed-Thu. Not a big storm, though.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#872 Postby gpsnowman » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:00 am

wxman57 wrote:
Brent wrote:Only 288 hours out! it's all ice

https://i.ibb.co/X3QNNPw/gfs-mslp-pcpn-frzn-scus-48.png


Saw that. 1057mb high dropping out of Canada on the 15th. It keeps trying to show something in Texas around the 15th-16th (various 6Z and 18Z runs mostly). Very shallow sub-freezing with warm air aloft = sleet, mostly. I'm not inclined to believe it as the GFS has been very inconsistent so far out.

Brent - looks like you may see some snow in Tahoe Wed-Thu. Not a big storm, though.

Do I detect a small hint of winter positivity from our resident heat miser? Perhaps. Regardless, hopefully we can have something to track over the next several days and create some buzz on the forum. Honestly the 40's-60's we have experienced lately are nothing to complain about but man I miss strong cold fronts.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#873 Postby Johnny » Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:34 pm

Man, and I thought last winter was bad. At least last winter we were teased a few times.

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#874 Postby Brent » Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:36 pm

wxman57 wrote:Brent - looks like you may see some snow in Tahoe Wed-Thu. Not a big storm, though.


Yeah the Euro looks really good but honestly I'd be happy with the inch or two the ensemble mean has :lol:

Either way I'm driving into the mountains before the snow hits to see some leftover snow and probably going to a ski resort regardless. I'll report back tomorrow sometime on that
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#875 Postby Haris » Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:41 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#876 Postby Brent » Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:44 pm



just what they need... more rain
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#877 Postby bubba hotep » Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:53 pm

Shocking... The King Euro folds the the GFS again on rainfall for DFW. This is the 3rd or 4th event in a row that the Euro had multiple runs showing a legit rain event for DFW while the GFS showed basically nothing only for the Euro to dry DFW out. Even the EPS has folded, but more gradually, going from 1.8" down to 0.5" lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#878 Postby South Texas Storms » Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:51 pm

bubba hotep wrote:Shocking... The King Euro folds the the GFS again on rainfall for DFW. This is the 3rd or 4th event in a row that the Euro had multiple runs showing a legit rain event for DFW while the GFS showed basically nothing only for the Euro to dry DFW out. Even the EPS has folded, but more gradually, going from 1.8" down to 0.5" lol


Did you really expect anything else? This pattern is so bad right now with little to no change in weeks.

I'll take the 18z GFS for mid January please! :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#879 Postby gpsnowman » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:10 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:Shocking... The King Euro folds the the GFS again on rainfall for DFW. This is the 3rd or 4th event in a row that the Euro had multiple runs showing a legit rain event for DFW while the GFS showed basically nothing only for the Euro to dry DFW out. Even the EPS has folded, but more gradually, going from 1.8" down to 0.5" lol


Did you really expect anything else? This pattern is so bad right now with little to no change in weeks.

I'll take the 18z GFS for mid January please! :lol:

Agreed. Snow all the way to Mexico on that run. Yikes.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#880 Postby gatorcane » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:11 pm

18Z GFS with really cold air into a Texas and widespread snow. This should get this thread going if it continues into the overnight runs:

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