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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#6441 Postby JDawg512 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:23 am

Light rain continuing at the Rain Cave, temp has fallen to 39 degrees.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#6442 Postby iorange55 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:25 am

Light snow (no sleet anymore) here in Cedar Hill. Maybe we'll get up to a half inch or so, lol. At least everything might be white in the morning.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#6443 Postby CaptinCrunch » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:29 am

Radar continues to show snow building back to the NW, however what is falling is powdery and may not stick to roadways as the wind is blowing it around, however elevated surfaces may become extremely slick.

Lite snow continues to fall here but so far only collecting on roof tops.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#6444 Postby Texas Snow » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:44 am

"FXUS64 KFWD 160520
AFDFWD

Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Fort Worth TX
1120 PM CST Mon Jan 15 2018


.AVIATION...
/06Z TAFs/

Trends being held pretty close to 00z TAF discussion (below this
discussion), though the precipitation, mixed or otherwise is
fairly light due to some very dry surface to boundary layer air
as noted by the very dry surface dew point temperatures building
in from the north. Some evaporation is likely occurring and thus
visibilities continue to be mostly VFR, as are cigs. Precip
across DFW Metro airports is occasional very light sleet and snow
and now transitioning to mostly light snow or flurries. Only
light accums are expected, despite temps falling below freezing,
as road and ground temps vary between the mid 30s-mid 40s. Any
light wintry precipitation will likely end between 08z-10z and
before daybreak Tuesday, as the deeper dry air continues filtering
in and the shortwave lifts east away from the area. Otherwise,
gusty north winds 15-20 knots with gusts to as high as 30 knots
will continue overnight, weakening with less gustiness during the
day Tuesday. By late afternoon/early evening Tuesday, clearing
skies and a very chilly airmass will allow rapid decoupling by
nightfall with north winds 5-8 knots."


Not too encouraging for those holding out hope. Radar echo opacity seems to be slimming out west too (although its still coming down here right now.)

I will say this with a loud shout out to Wxman57, I am jealous of those south of here. Not only does it look like you will get more, it looks like a lot of you will see it during the day, as opposed to when you should be sleeping. That is awesome so please enjoy if it should play out that way. Seriously, I hope you enjoy.

I just realized by accident that this is my 100th post after years of lurking. Kind of a sad little post I guess, unless I look out the window and see at least some snow while I sit here and complain.

But with that said, Wxman57, if I don't get my REAL snow this year, you will find out next winter that you only thought this winter was cold. You will go from your 700c road tires to these monsters, in Houston, in November through April. Bring on the February DFW SNOW or you will need these to ride. The gauntlet has been thrown down.

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#6445 Postby EnnisTx » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:47 am

Well... I'm done, this has been another dud in my humble opinion.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#6446 Postby wxman22 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:48 am

The Texas WRF is not backing down on the potential for mesoscale banding if this were to verify there could be some areas getting higher amounts than what has been forecasted.

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#6447 Postby South Texas Storms » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:49 am

:uarrow:
And it has trended heavier on each of the past few runs. I'm hoping most of that is snow and not freezing rain.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#6448 Postby Longhornmaniac8 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:50 am

Not real excited about the prospects of this in Austin, either. Doesn't look like the precip is expanding at all, but maybe I'm just being impatient.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#6449 Postby bubba hotep » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:52 am

Hope is fading fast but we have transitioned to rimed dendrites... just want to see a few minutes of fat flakes before calling it a night.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#6450 Postby South Texas Storms » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:52 am

Longhornmaniac8 wrote:Not real excited about the prospects of this in Austin, either. Doesn't look like the precip is expanding at all, but maybe I'm just being impatient.


The main time frame for Austin is between 3am and noon. We should start to see precip expand in coverage after midnight.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#6451 Postby Ralph's Weather » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:53 am

Snow here up to around a quarter inch of various precip types.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#6452 Postby DFWLady » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:54 am

Welp. I'm severely upset that DFW didn't get snow at all again. I was really hopeful this time for winter weather. My kids arent happy about it either. I hope the SE gets some good snow. I'm very jealous here in Dallas!
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#6453 Postby Ntxw » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:56 am

Just got done walking the dog and it started coming down a bit steadier again but there is sleet mixed in still. The wind took a bite :cold:
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#6454 Postby Lagreeneyes03 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:00 am

DFWLady wrote:Welp. I'm severely upset that DFW didn't get snow at all again. I was really hopeful this time for winter weather. My kids arent happy about it either. I hope the SE gets some good snow. I'm very jealous here in Dallas!


We've gone between having 2 winter seasons of "Cold Rain" and now "Too cold to snow". I feel like someone did a hex on us for sure.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#6455 Postby Ntxw » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:00 am

The winners in all this (so far) is I-30 corridor east/ne of DFW. Mineola/Quitman is 23F with half mile visibility and snowing. Texarkana 1.25 mile vis
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#6456 Postby DFWLady » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:03 am

Lagreeneyes03 wrote:
DFWLady wrote:Welp. I'm severely upset that DFW didn't get snow at all again. I was really hopeful this time for winter weather. My kids arent happy about it either. I hope the SE gets some good snow. I'm very jealous here in Dallas!


We've gone between having 2 winter seasons of "Cold Rain" and now "Too cold to snow". I feel like someone did a hex on us for sure.



Oh I agree completely! I don't get it! We want snow to!!!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#6457 Postby Ralph's Weather » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:05 am

Looks like I may miss the really good stuff by just a few miles to my north and east. Even still I am getting accumulating snow so can't complain.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#6458 Postby Ntxw » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:09 am

Ralph's Weather wrote:Looks like I may miss the really good stuff by just a few miles to my north and east. Even still I am getting accumulating snow so can't complain.


You're in a good spot with several more hours to go
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#6459 Postby Ralph's Weather » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:12 am

Ntxw wrote:
Ralph's Weather wrote:Looks like I may miss the really good stuff by just a few miles to my north and east. Even still I am getting accumulating snow so can't complain.


You're in a good spot with several more hours to go

Radar does look good right now. 25 so all is sticking now. Now if only soon would settle down to sleep so i can go out and enjoy it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#6460 Postby cheezyWXguy » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:22 am

Well, now that this event is “fully underway” I think we can start assessing the performance of the models. Given the way the radar looks right now, the HRRR definitely was the most accurate in terms of radar display. I can also see why it had several hours of frozen precip before any accumulations actually began showing up. As Wxman57 said, the air is just too dry. It seems as though only a fraction of what the radar is showing is even reaching the ground.

However, what I can’t seem to figure out is what the difference is between this event and a system like what happened in feb 2011 where moisture was very scarce, but it still managed to substantially overperform. Can anyone offer some insight into the differences?
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