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#6381 Postby weather girl » Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:32 pm

It has been perfect the last few days here. I feel like I'm living in a postcard. This is the kind of summer weather I love. I'm actually down that the forecast is changing...but I guess that's what it does. It looks like it will heat up a little over the weekend...we may hit 90 both Saturday and Sunday, and then rain next week?????

A couple of weeks ago when we were having our hot streak, it FELT hot....which I know sounds weird. But I'm curious to see about these 90 degree days coming up. It's just felt so pre-fall-like the last four or five days. Instead of staying hot ALL DAY, I wonder if the temperature will be just up-and-down....like Indian Summer.

Any predictions for September?
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#6382 Postby AnthonyC » Sat Aug 13, 2005 1:24 pm

It's hard to believe that the sun angle is equivalent to the end of April/beginning of May. Summer is winding down and fall will be here before you know it. FYI for everyone on this board...I leave for Gonzaga University August 19. At that time, I'm not sure how often I will post here. My goal is to post once a day, everyday but that could be impossible for all I know. So if you don't see me post for an extended period...let's say more than a week...it's because I don't have computer access.

Back to weather...a beautiful weekend in tap. Temperatures in the 80s across Puget Sound with a light, northeasterly wind. No heatwave, but much above normal temperatures. Unfortunately we NEVER had a heatwave this summer...which is unusual. Although I would consider the Memorial Day weekend a heatwave for that time of year, Sea-Tac has NOT passed the 90-degree mark. Maybe next year.

As for next week, models have backed off on the cooler/wetter pattern that they were advertising just a few days ago. BUT...I will stand by my prediction that toward the end of August/beginning of September we will see a pattern shift...I think models are starting to get a handle on this idea but they are jumping the gun. So this upcoming week doesn't look too bad...we may not see any precipitation at all. Just typical morning/night low clouds and afternoon sunshine.

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#6383 Postby TT-SEA » Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:05 am

Anthony... are you going to school out there?? That will be different. We will get a much colder perpective from you this winter!!

The 00Z run of the GFS is going gangbusters again with a progressively colder and wetter pattern during this coming week.

Summer will return... but a few days of cooler and wetter might be nice. The grass around here needs some help.

Have fun in college. Freshman year is the best. It just does not get any better than that. :D
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#6384 Postby TT-SEA » Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:03 am

And the 06Z run backed way off.

The GFS is having trouble lately.
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#6385 Postby TT-SEA » Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:59 pm

And the 12Z run now has a major heat wave for next weekend.

Great consistency.

The 00Z run would mean high in the low 60's with lots of rain.

The 12Z run would mean temperatures in the mid-90's and sunny.
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#6386 Postby AnthonyC » Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:08 pm

The consistency of the GFS model is utter crap. It's been this way for the entire year.

As for today, it sure was a warm one! We hit 91F on our deck...I usually subtract 3-4F to get a more accurate calculation. Sea-Tac tied a record high of 88F...still didn't hit that 90-degree mark.

As for this upcoming week, good-ol' summer weather...very typical for the middle of August. Temperatures in the 70s with morning low clouds, afternoon sunshine. Of course there will be varying amount of each...particularly Tuesday and Wednesday, but no real threat of precipitation in the near/medium term. The GFS again introduces tremendous moisture around day 6/7...but why should we believe the model?

Where is everyone on this thread?

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#6387 Postby weather girl » Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:13 pm

Remember last week how I was wondering if this past weekend's weather would still feel like July heat or maybe possibly Indian Summer? I'm actually laughing at myself. It was miserable this last weekend...Saturday was the worst. Looks like we'll get cool days and then, as TT says, back to the heat maybe Friday and Saturday. Then cool, but the GFS is whack right now and can't be trusted.

Good luck at Gonzaga, Anthony. One of my best friends graduated from there awhile back. She was there on a volleyball scholarship and had a blast.
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#6388 Postby andycottle » Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:15 pm

A warm day here to yesterday with lots of sunny skies. My high also made it up 88 just like Sea-Tac did. The low here at our place was 58. Currently I have sunny skies with a temp of 84 with 39% humidity.

Oh andd BTW...here`s a couple 'after sunset' pics from yesterday evening, along with some pics of cirrus clouds that I saw late this morning into early afternoon. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ajc192004 ... .dir=/fa5c

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#6389 Postby AnthonyC » Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:49 am

Another beautiful day! High temperature that was only a few degrees cooler than yesterday...hardly noticeable. I think we hit 84F...not sure the exact temperature though. Painting a fence for three hours was not an easy task...buckets of sweat poured down my face.

As for tomorrow and Wednesday, small but noticeable changes. As of now, the onshore pressure gradient between Hoquiam and Seattle is almost +3 which indicates a moderate/strong marine push. This basically formulates to low clouds/fog over all of Western Washington and maybe a little morning drizzle in isolated areas. The onshore pressure gradient strengthens Tuesday night so more of the same Wednesday morning...but more widespread drizzle. Temperatures both days will range from 65-75F depending on the amount of sunshine areas see.

This weekend looks similiar to this past weekend...sunny and warm as models introduce another thermal trough riding up the west coast. It could even be hotter than this past weekend...if the short-term GFS model is correct, temperatures in the upper 80s/mid 90s will be common across most of Western Washington. We'll see if this plays out.

I won't common on the long range...you can't trust the GFS.

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#6390 Postby AnthonyC » Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:00 am

A cool and cloudy day...high temperature of 69F. Tomorrow looks similiar with a little bit of moisture. Not expecting a widespread shield of rain but any moisture is good.

As for this upcoming weekend, it's not looking as warm as first indicated. Temperatures should range from 75-85F...definitely not a heatwave...no 90s. But very pleasant for this time of year.

A trough breaks through the pattern in the beginning of the week. And then another ridge looks to build after that.

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#6391 Postby R-Dub » Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:00 am

Very wet night here in my area, we recieved .7" of rainfall, the most in a very long time now. First measurable rainfall in 30 days here in the Stanwood area. We really needed it!!!
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#6392 Postby AnthonyC » Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:33 pm

Well, hopefully this is not a fairwell. Tomorrow I'm off to Gonzaga University in Spokane. I think it will be interesting to get a different perspective of weather in Western Washington compared to that in Eastern Washington. Like I stated before, I plan to post once a day, everyday. I'm not sure if this will be possible, but it's my goal. Hopefully I'll never have to go a full week without a post.

As for weather, a beautiful day. I must admit I did think this summer was down the drain...but the middle of July saw a serious pattern shift and since then it's been awesome! I still stick with my prediction that by the last week of August/first week of September a major pattern shift will be underway and the PNW will return to a wet/cooler regime.

I still have plenty of packing to do...and my parents are a wreck at the moment. I can't go past my mother without her breaking into tears. I won't post tomorrow but hopefully by Monday I'll have internet access. Fairwell for now?! lol.

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#6393 Postby R-Dub » Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:20 pm

Not much to say still, sunny with temps in the mid to upper 70's everyday! We have had only one rainy day since mid July, my total rainfall since July 15th is only .8"

Sounds like things may get a little wet by the end of the weekend though. Hope so, the grass really needs it!
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#6394 Postby TT-SEA » Sun Aug 28, 2005 1:10 am

I am of course watching Hurricane Katrina will fascination and dread for New Orleans.

But I cannot help draw some comparisons to this extreme hurricane season and our local debate.

There is one post about how 3 major hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico has not happened since 1916.

And then all the comparisons to Camille in 1969.

The summers of 1916 and 1969 followed VERY snowy winters in Seattle. I think 2004-2005 was our best shot. The upper air patterns this past winter would have likely bought FEET of snow in years past.

The upper air maps from January of 1969 and January of 2005 are amazingly similar.

Yet another sign that this winter will not be a cold or a snowy one. I really think it will be wet though!!
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#6395 Postby TT-SEA » Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:25 pm

Just a couple updates... as I hope this thread will become active again soon.

First... we received 1.15 inches of rain yesterday at our house after almost none in the previous 7 weeks. We had two very active convergence zones sit over us... one in the morning and another in the evening. Very nice to see a good dumping of rain to freshen the landscape.

Second... August will end above normal for temperatures and way below normal for rainfall. Yet another above normal month. I know that a very wet August may have meant something for this coming winter... but it was definitely not wet.

August was almost perfectly in line with my two analog years of 1969 and 1995. And again... the parallels to the Atlantic Hurricane Season are striking when comparing those years.

Cold and snowy weather will be hard to come by this winter in the PNW. On the other hand... I expect the Northeast to get clobbered.
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#6396 Postby invisible » Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:47 pm

This forum has been quiet for weeks. I found out that someone just left the forum like snowwizzard. He didnt like what u said about this winter. I think he will come back if u just stop talking about the warm winter. U need to give him more evidence to prove that NW will have a warm winter. I dont mean to throw you out. I just want this forum to begin active as before. Thank you, Tim
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#6397 Postby TT-SEA » Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:10 pm

I gave you evidence.

And Snow_Wizzard is just taking his summer break. He will be back soon for more lively debate!! And the best part is... we will get a definitive answer soon.

I completely respect Snow_Wizzard's views and his knowledge. I cannot wait until he returns!!
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#6398 Postby Perturbance » Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:42 pm

I believe that George Taylor's Fall and Winter forecast will be released in the next couple of weeks. That should add some commentary and fodder to the thread too :)
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#6399 Postby andrewr » Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:16 pm

I certainly hope to see this thread explode in debate too, but if snow_wizzard doesn't come back then it most likely will not happen. Unfortunately, for this winter, I am leaning towards above average temperatures. Certainly a lot of historical evidence can be used to say we are going to have below normal temps., but the fact is that we continue to average above normal for a majority of the months and I do not believe a climate regime shift has occured to change this. The only real way to know if a climate shift towards cooler temperatures has occured is to get the results from that shift and I do not see this happening. Remember that the last 8 winters have all been above average (not only here, but for almost the entire nation) as well so to say it is going to change this year would be going out on a limb. I hope to be proven wrong by the weather as I would like nothing more than a record cold and snowy winter, but facing the facts presented to me suggests it isn't going to happen this year. Let's all hope we can get a windstorm this year though, those have been lacking in recent years as well.
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#6400 Postby andycottle » Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:55 am

Just to let you all know.... I am still here, just that there hasn`t really been much to post about lately since the weather has been relativly quite.
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