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#6361 Postby weather girl » Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:46 pm

Have you guys seen the CPC's outlook for the next couple of weeks? :eek: Even the forecasters seem incredulous about their predictions....big heat building in the Great Lakes and East and cool down for the West.

We'll see how this holds. I gotta admit this is kinda crazy. Even some national forecasters are starting to whisper about a cold winter for the northern tier (don't know if that means us necessarily.) I don't know enough about forecasting and models to go out on a limb, but the weather sure has been exciting....if you like this sort of thing. ;)
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#6362 Postby AnthonyC » Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:03 pm

Tomorrow could be the warmest day of the year!! I say Sea-Tac hits 92F.

BRING ON THE HEAT!

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#6363 Postby TT-SEA » Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:36 pm

I agree with Anthony. A Heat Advisory for temperatures around 90 degrees with dewpoints in the 50's is a complete joke.

I was reading the Minneapolis NWS discussion last week and they were DEBATING a Heat Advisory with temperatures in the upper 90's and dewpoints near 80 degrees.

They would have evacuated Seattle with that forecast!!!

I thought the standards were applied uniformly.

A high of 90 degrees and a dewpoint of 50 degrees would be welcome relief for most of the country.
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#6364 Postby AnthonyC » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:20 am

TT-SEA,

I've been meaning to ask where you got the information regarding the weak La Nina forming for this upcoming winter and spring? I've heard nor seen any information about this.

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#6365 Postby andycottle » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:29 am

R-Dub wrote:
AnthonyC wrote:
BRING ON THE HEAT!

Anthony


NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very hard to maintain green cool season grass in 90 degree heat, and I am responsible for 100 acres of the stuff. 75 degrees=perfect growing conditions! 90 degrees= misery for Randy :lol:

BRING ON THE RAIN AND 60'S!!!!!!!!!!! At least for a few days :wink:


"misery for Randy?" lol...hehehe. I`ll say 93 for my high tomorrow! In the mean time, Randy, can I throw you a BIG COLD glass of lemonade? 8-) :D -- Andy
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#6366 Postby TT-SEA » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:34 am

I guess to say it more precisely... this winter will be neutral or a VERY weak La Nina. All the guidance points to this conclusion. The CPC and the Australian BOM both agree as well.

All this drama about an incredibly cold winter in Seattle is WAY overstated. Of course. :D

Show me a situation with a weak El Nino fading (during the summer) to neutral or a very weak La Nina and a well-established WARM phase of the PDO (still above 1.00) that lead to a really cold winter in Seattle. Even if the PDO plunged... its WAY too late to affect this winter.


We are following a very close path to 1995.

Flooding rains in the PNW... dry in the Southwest... and a blockbuster snowy winter in the Northeast.

Those will likely be the headlines.
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#6367 Postby AnthonyC » Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:28 pm

79F at 12:20 pm...definitely the warmest day of the year. I say a high of 89F for my location.

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#6368 Postby weather girl » Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:29 pm

They've backed off their triple digit prediction for us. In fact, they've dropped us to the mid-90s. And while "dropped us to the mid-90s" is a bit of a stretch, it's a far cry from what they were forecasting. Even yesterday, I was hearing "record breaking heat." It must be the way the heat-low is coming in.

Next week looks much more reasonable with highs in the low 80s. Speaking of back-offs, CPC has us warmer than normal over the next 2 weeks after calling for below average temps just the day before.

What's with those guys.........??? :)
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#6369 Postby AnthonyC » Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:42 pm

Yeah, a little cooler today than I thought...currently 86F at 2:40pm. It's a warm day, but nothing extreme...I'm starting to wonder if Sea-Tac will hit the 90F mark...it's currently 82F there...seems a little low to me.

If today's 5F cooler than most forecasters predicted, than I figure tomorrow won't go above 80F.

A little disappointed with this. It's only 88F in Portland as of now...they were predicting 100F just last night...now only 93F.

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#6370 Postby andycottle » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:27 pm

A little disapointed here to! I was really expecting my high temp to be in the low 90`s this afternoon.... per yesterdays GFS, MM5, and MOS models. But it was a warm day none the less! My high made it up 88 and low was 53.

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#6371 Postby R-Dub » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:58 pm

andycottle wrote:
R-Dub wrote:
AnthonyC wrote:
BRING ON THE HEAT!

Anthony


NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very hard to maintain green cool season grass in 90 degree heat, and I am responsible for 100 acres of the stuff. 75 degrees=perfect growing conditions! 90 degrees= misery for Randy :lol:

BRING ON THE RAIN AND 60'S!!!!!!!!!!! At least for a few days :wink:


"misery for Randy?" lol...hehehe. I`ll say 93 for my high tomorrow! In the mean time, Randy, can I throw you a BIG COLD glass of lemonade? 8-) :D -- Andy


Only made it to 81 here today, but I will still take that COLD glass of lemonade Andy!! :D Currently at 8:00PM its 74 degrees.
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#6372 Postby andycottle » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:21 pm

Here ya go Randy!(Handing glass to Randy). Nice evening tonight as skies are clear with a temp of 73 at just about 9:30pm. -- Andy
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#6373 Postby AnthonyC » Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:07 am

Wow...the official high at Sea-Tac was 83F. That seems low considering a majority of Puget Sound made it to at least the mid 80s. This was DEFINITELY not a heatwave...there was really no thermal trough and offshore flow was very weak. The ridge in Western Canada that was giving us this offshore flow has shifted east allowing a westerly flow to develop. High temperature tomorrow? If it was only 83F today, I'll say 79F tomorrow. Very disappointing. Local meteorologists were making this to be a heatwave just two nights ago...at least three days with 85F+ and possibly two days at 90F. Nothing of that sort. Hopefully we get a REAL heatwave before the end of summer...but if we don't have one within the next two weeks, there's no chance; then the sun angle is too low and the jet stream becomes more active.

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#6374 Postby TT-SEA » Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:04 pm

This is perfect weather.

Any warmer and it would be ruined. It would be too uncomfortable to enjoy it.
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#6375 Postby W13 » Sat Aug 06, 2005 6:27 pm

Hey everyone, I'm just stopping into check in real quick. Whoo, has it been hot in Oregon or what these past few weeks, and even up here the last few days. Today was a nice change from yesterday, especially since we don't have air conditioning in our house.

The past couple weeks in Portland have been HOT! Even in Portland (I was staying in Clackamas, OR which is a suburb of Portland) we have hit the century mark twice and hit 99F another day. While driving thru Eastern Oregon last week we had a 38F reading in Baker City, OR (northeast of Burns, OR) and that was later confirmed by the local news. That felt good! It still got into the upper-80's that day there too. :eek:

As far as the weather at our cabin in Rhodendron, OR (just east of Welches, OR, and west of Government Camp, OR and the famous year-round ski resort of Timberline). Now, we sit at an elevation around 2000-2500 feet there, but it still got to 96F last week. Now, factor in all of the plants and trees there, and you have yourself a very hot, humid place. Almost like a sauna.

Anyways, I will be back home posting full-time and preparing for what looks like a very good potential Fall/Winter in a few weeks. Until then... :D
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#6376 Postby AnthonyC » Mon Aug 08, 2005 3:58 pm

Hey everyone,

Just got back from Spokane. VERY WARM there...high temperatures ranging from 93-97F all days I was there. But the heat is VERY dry so it doesn't feel that hot...the heat index never exceeded 90F.

As for here, it looks like the typical summer weather continues. If I had a chose, I would prefer temperatures to be 5-7F higher but 77, 78F is nice. Looks to continue for the forseeable future. The GFS tries to bring a pattern change within two weeks, but it's still August...which means I don't buy it.

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#6377 Postby AnthonyC » Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:00 pm

Not much activity on this thread...but I'll keep it alive! lol.

After a dull morning, a beautiful afternoon emerged. I was surprised by the afternoon high temperature...we still managed 77F even though the low clouds did not burn off until 11am. Goes to show the sun is still strong for the beginning/middle of August.

Tomorrow and Thursday look like repeat days, although burn off should be a little later each day. This will keep temperatures a touch lower...say 3-5F lower.

But later this weekend and next week looks warmer and drier.

This is a bold prediction and a gut feeling but I think we're in for a big pattern change within 14-18 days. I'm not relying on any models, but just a natural instinct. I think the pattern will turn more zonal and things will drastically cool/turn wetter toward the end of August/beginning of September. Just a prediction.

Anthony
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#6378 Postby AnthonyC » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:55 pm

To maintain activity on this page, I will update once a day even though no one else is posting.

A change in the weather today. Stubborn low clouds never burned off...we had a high temperature of 66F...coolest temperature in almost four weeks. Tomorrow looks very similar...if not a little worse...as a weak northern branch shortwave moves down the Vancouver coastline. This in turn will increase the onshore flow and moisten the lower levels of the atmosphere creating drizzle. I would say most areas will wake up to drizzle tomorrow morning...we could have some light showers also.

As for this weekend, another beautiful one in tap. Temperatures in the lower, middle 80s with plenty of sunshine. Flow turns offshore for a brief period beginning Saturday night and Sunday, but no heatwave. And next week is up in the air...latest GFS models introduce some moisture beginning Thursday. We will see.

Anthony
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#6379 Postby skipnfamily » Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:30 pm

I'm back now. Summer was nice. Hope your summers were all good too. I figured weather should start getting interesting again soon so I should pop up here and at the Almanac.
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#6380 Postby andycottle » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:34 am

Yeah not a whole to talk about right with the weather. Pretty much the same weather here as I had cloudy skies and a coolish feel to the air. My today was 65 with a low of 58. -- Andy
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