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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1621 Postby South Texas Storms » Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:50 am

12z GFS has snow in New Orleans on Christmas Day :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1622 Postby bubba hotep » Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:52 am

Iceresistance wrote:The 12z GFS has trended WAY colder for Christmas compared to 6z

For my area, it's 10s/20s vs 30s/40s as lows


Yeah, this GFS runs lines up more closely with the cold cluster from the 00z Euro EPS. It looks like this run might push some areas of NTX and OK below freezing for almost a week.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1623 Postby Cerlin » Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:52 am

orangeblood wrote:Latest ICON faster/stronger with Arctic Front on Thursday, catching up to the EURO OP now. GFS outlier

Noon Thursday
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/icon/2022121512/icon_T2m_scus_59.png

ICON basically nailed the timing of February 2021 so this is extremely encouraging!
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1624 Postby Edwards Limestone » Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:53 am

The ping-ponging here can be hard to follow...here's what EWX office is thinking for south central TX

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1625 Postby gpsnowman » Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:59 am

South Texas Storms wrote:12z GFS has snow in New Orleans on Christmas Day :lol:

Ok you are in charge of a large hot pot of gumbo Christmas morning.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1626 Postby wxman57 » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:02 pm

Iceresistance wrote:The 12z GFS has trended WAY colder for Christmas compared to 6z

For my area, it's 10s/20s vs 30s/40s as lows


12Z GFS is not worth the paper it's written on, so to speak.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1627 Postby Ntxw » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:05 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:The 12z GFS has trended WAY colder for Christmas compared to 6z

For my area, it's 10s/20s vs 30s/40s as lows


12Z GFS is not worth the paper it's written on, so to speak.


Model is too warm, cut it by 5-10F :wink:.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1628 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:05 pm

12z CMC very cold, but extremely dry.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1629 Postby txtwister78 » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:08 pm

Don't make any holiday plans off of that. Lol

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1630 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:18 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1631 Postby Ntxw » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:20 pm

bubba hotep wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:The 12z GFS has trended WAY colder for Christmas compared to 6z

For my area, it's 10s/20s vs 30s/40s as lows


Yeah, this GFS runs lines up more closely with the cold cluster from the 00z Euro EPS. It looks like this run might push some areas of NTX and OK below freezing for almost a week.


The ENS have been pretty insistent on Tues/Weds cold/freezing lasting through Christmas. OPs with their dance.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1632 Postby Brent » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:23 pm

bubba hotep wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:The 12z GFS has trended WAY colder for Christmas compared to 6z

For my area, it's 10s/20s vs 30s/40s as lows


Yeah, this GFS runs lines up more closely with the cold cluster from the 00z Euro EPS. It looks like this run might push some areas of NTX and OK below freezing for almost a week.


Yeah I'm not surprised but dang another trend I'm not surprised by :lol: been telling people the globals are always too warm with this
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1633 Postby Ntxw » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:27 pm

Need the Euro to side with Ukmet.

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1634 Postby Wntrwthrguy » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:27 pm

What are the chances an east coast block forces the coldest air south into Texas instead of letting it bleed to the east coast?
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1635 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:28 pm

Ntxw wrote:Need the Euro to side with Ukmet.

https://i.imgur.com/5HHwpIh.png

What is it showing? It's blocked on My School Chromebook, but Gifyu is not.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1636 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:29 pm

Wntrwthrguy wrote:What are the chances an east coast block forces the coldest air south into Texas instead of letting it bleed to the east coast?

I mean, it's possible, February 2021 featured the East Coast Block (I forgot which teleconnection featured it) and we got DUMPED!
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1637 Postby txtwister78 » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:29 pm

Ntxw wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:The 12z GFS has trended WAY colder for Christmas compared to 6z

For my area, it's 10s/20s vs 30s/40s as lows


Yeah, this GFS runs lines up more closely with the cold cluster from the 00z Euro EPS. It looks like this run might push some areas of NTX and OK below freezing for almost a week.


The ENS have been pretty insistent on Tues/Weds cold/freezing lasting through Christmas. OPs with their dance.


Yup and the 12z GEFS is much faster draining that arctic air into Texas Tues/wed timeframe which I think is more accurate. Have always felt this would be "earlier" than what OP's had been hinting at just due to the way arctic fronts push in contrast with how the models typically handle that coming down the plains. We shall see.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1638 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:32 pm

I will enjoy the sun as much as I can because soon, I may not be able to for several days.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1639 Postby Ntxw » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:33 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Need the Euro to side with Ukmet.

https://i.imgur.com/5HHwpIh.png

What is it showing? It's blocked on My School Chromebook, but Gifyu is not.


More energy digging down in the Pac NW. Not perfect but better for system odds.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1640 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:37 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Need the Euro to side with Ukmet.

https://i.imgur.com/5HHwpIh.png

What is it showing? It's blocked on My School Chromebook, but Gifyu is not.


More energy digging down in the Pac NW. Not perfect but better for system odds.

Oh! The odds for snow here has increased from the UKMET, the models are overdoing the +PNA
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