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#1561 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:02 pm

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Ntxw wrote:And remember guys, you heard it here first! Top of the line information from scenic SW Austin! We were warned a couple of weeks ago.
Need more info on what you're referring to.


Go back to the fall thread. There was various discussion about winter storms crossing the southern plains and the nature of these shallow air masses. We were all talking about a significant winter storm in better light starting about last Wednesday. Between page 70-75 is a good place to start!
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#1562 Postby downsouthman1 » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:04 pm

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Ntxw wrote:And remember guys, you heard it here first! Top of the line information from scenic SW Austin! We were warned a couple of weeks ago.
Need more info on what you're referring to.


Go back to the fall thread. There was various discussion about winter storms crossing the southern plains and the nature of these shallow air masses. We were all talking about a significant winter storm in better light starting about last Wednesday. Between page 70-75 is a good place to start!

Sorry. Didn't realize you were referring to that. I was in the fall thread back then reading & posting. I saw it. I thought you were talking about something new.
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#1563 Postby WeatherGuesser » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:08 pm

News sites reporting 2 deaths in TX
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#1564 Postby Meteorcane » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:11 pm

ColdFusion wrote:Ice collapsed one of the docks on Lake Lewisville in North Dallas @ The Colony.



Very interesting scene in North Texas, my aunt/cousins live in the Colony, that is a lot of sleet/ice.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#1565 Postby wxman57 » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:18 pm

Maybe I can swing a few of you folks up in the Dallas area over to my side after today. See? Cold is bad! Warm is good!

Was listening to a news story on the radio while driving to work this morning. The reporter said that ski resorts in some parts of the Rockies were reporting record snow for so early in the season. One place has already recorded 7 ft of snow - more than a typical season. In fact, it's the heaviest snow in 30 years! And I thought, hmm, 30 years ago, that was - 1983! I lived through one 1983 (and 1989) and don't want to go through another like that.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#1566 Postby Portastorm » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:23 pm

wxman57 wrote:Maybe I can swing a few of you folks up in the Dallas area over to my side after today. See? Cold is bad! Warm is good!

Was listening to a news story on the radio while driving to work this morning. The reporter said that ski resorts in some parts of the Rockies were reporting record snow for so early in the season. One place has already recorded 7 ft of snow - more than a typical season. In fact, it's the heaviest snow in 30 years! And I thought, hmm, 30 years ago, that was - 1983! I lived through one 1983 (and 1989) and don't want to go through another like that.


Already doing the recruiting Heat Miser, eh?! :wink: That didn't take long.

The party has just begun! Just think ... we have three more months of "potential" for more winter weather.
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#1567 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:24 pm

While we're on the subject of patterns and I'm comfortably at home enjoying the warm fire lets discuss some potentials. I'm going to leave the disturbances next few days to Portastorm to analyze. Sometimes these little things do their own thing!

As for the longer term, the latest daily SOI's have gone negative not a true crash but they are nonetheless and there is a burst of convection to the south of Hawaii. The PV and coldest air in the hemisphere continues to reside over North America and stay that way for as far as the eye can see. Wavelengths are becoming longer and we're likely to see less ups and down and settle into a steady cold regime, as well the air masses will get deeper.

Believe it or not the SST's below Alaska are getting even WARMER! I think wxman57 may be trying to warm up the wrong place for his liking. The EPO region is going to feed more ridges and as we have seen the models overall have performed poorly regarding the cold and keeps trying to bring a gulf of alaska trough 7+ days out which never verifies and continuously replaced by ridges. The train of potential storms persists (refer to euro), lots of chitter chatter to be had.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#1568 Postby lrak » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:34 pm

wxman57 wrote:Maybe I can swing a few of you folks up in the Dallas area over to my side after today. See? Cold is bad! Warm is good!

Was listening to a news story on the radio while driving to work this morning. The reporter said that ski resorts in some parts of the Rockies were reporting record snow for so early in the season. One place has already recorded 7 ft of snow - more than a typical season. In fact, it's the heaviest snow in 30 years! And I thought, hmm, 30 years ago, that was - 1983! I lived through one 1983 (and 1989) and don't want to go through another like that.


We have a ski trip planned right after Christmas :D

And thanks to all for sharing your pictures. Stay WARM everybody.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#1569 Postby katheria » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:54 pm

wxman57,

you have recruit for atleast now. not sure i like this winter weather anymore....
took a walk around the area.

the pretty pics first

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last break at my house 10 min ago

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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#1570 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:54 pm

I am much more comfortable in cold weather. Give me 4 months of sub 50 and I'll be happy. I have to deal with hell from May to late September.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#1571 Postby Cuda17 » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:01 pm

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:I am much more comfortable in cold weather. Give me 4 months of sub 50 and I'll be happy. I have to deal with hell from May to late September.


Right on brother! The summer of 2011 was the worst I can remember! Bring on the cold!!! :froze: :cold:
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#1572 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:08 pm

katheria wrote:wxman57,

you have recruit for atleast now. not sure i like this winter weather anymore....
took a walk around the area.


Did you forget the 42 days straight of 100+?! Or the 70+ days total?! 110? Drought killing your trees?!?! This is nothing compared to what his powers can do. Do not give in to the Dark Lord of Summer as Tireman4 likes to say.

Fantastic pictures btw!
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#1573 Postby wxman57 » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:16 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Did you forget the 42 days straight of 100+?! Or the 70+ days total?! 110? Drought killing your trees?!?! This is nothing compared to what his powers can do. Do not give in to the Dark Lord of Summer as Tireman4 likes to say...snip...


Shoot, only 42? I hate cold summers! I'd take 120F over today any day of the week/year. I can tell I'm going to hate this winter... :thermo:
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#1574 Postby GRAYSONCO.WX » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:20 pm

Latest 18Z NAM is slightly wetter with the Saturday into Sunday system. Most if the moisture is along and north of the Red River, as well as in west Texas; however, it'll be something to keep an eye on.
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#1575 Postby katheria » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:22 pm

nope i didnt forget about those 120 days. you can water in a drought and save trees :P id rather deal with 10 days straight of a heat wave than all of this

anyone want free firewood?
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#1576 Postby wxman57 » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:30 pm

GRAYSONCO.WX wrote:Latest 18Z NAM is slightly wetter with the Saturday into Sunday system. Most if the moisture is along and north of the Red River, as well as in west Texas; however, it'll be something to keep an eye on.


I'm not seeing wetter across TX in the 18Z NAM. Side-by-side comparison and the 18Z is a bit drier over Texas than the 12Z.

12Z NAM valid 12Z Sun:
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18Z NAM Valid 12Z Sun: Note no more light precip near Dallas-Ft. Worth
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12Z NAM 48hr Precip Valid 6PM Friday to 6PM Sunday:
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18Z NAM 48hr Precip Valid 6pm Friday to 6pm Sunday: Definitely less precip over central and NE TX, though not much forecast by 12Z
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#1577 Postby GRAYSONCO.WX » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:39 pm

wxman57 wrote:
GRAYSONCO.WX wrote:Latest 18Z NAM is slightly wetter with the Saturday into Sunday system. Most if the moisture is along and north of the Red River, as well as in west Texas; however, it'll be something to keep an eye on.


I'm not seeing wetter across TX in the 18Z NAM. Side-by-side comparison and the 18Z is a bit drier over Texas than the 12Z.

12Z NAM valid 12Z Sun:
http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/NCOMAGWEB/appc ... precip.gif

18Z NAM Valid 12Z Sun: Note no more light precip near Dallas-Ft. Worth
http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/NCOMAGWEB/appc ... precip.gif

12Z NAM 48hr Precip Valid 6PM Friday to 6PM Sunday:
http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/NCOMAGWEB/appc ... ip_p48.gif

18Z NAM 48hr Precip Valid 6pm Friday to 6pm Sunday: Definitely less precip over central and NE TX, though not much forecast by 12Z
http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/NCOMAGWEB/appc ... ip_p36.gif


Looking at the soundings across southern and central Oklahoma, the moisture is much greater through 600-450mb. Also, it looks like the twisterdata QPF is slightly greater across Oklahoma as well.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#1578 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:42 pm

Hey wxman57, instead of going south maybe you should go to Alaska? Look how balmy it is!

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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#1579 Postby opticsguy » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:44 pm

Iced up solar panels are useless. It took all the sea salt from the kitchen and an hour of chiseling to remove the ice. Next time, some RainX and maybe a sheet.\
Oncor said 5 AM tomorrow, but power came on around 1 PM. What a surprise.
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#1580 Postby TheProfessor » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:51 pm

With all of this ice on the ground here does it look like we will get above freezing Sunday or Monday?
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