2023 Cyclone Retirement (Poll Included at Top) Dora / Otis retired
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2023 Cyclone Retirement (Poll Included at Top) Dora / Otis retired
Surprised that no one else started this, so I guess it can start here.
Which systems will get the boot from being used again this year?
Which systems will get the boot from being used again this year?
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement
At least one tropical cyclone in the Southern Hemisphere will get its name retired.
At least one typhoon will get its name retired. There will also be at least one super typhoon somewhere at some point.
I have a moderate level of confidence that 2023 will be just like the past 8 years in the Atlantic, with at least one destructive Category 4 or Category 5 storm that gets its name retired.
I'm a bit unsure about the EPAC and the Northern Indian Ocean. Those are the genuine wild cards, as some years they can feature destructive storms while others years they are very tame.
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At least one typhoon will get its name retired. There will also be at least one super typhoon somewhere at some point.
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I have a moderate level of confidence that 2023 will be just like the past 8 years in the Atlantic, with at least one destructive Category 4 or Category 5 storm that gets its name retired.
I'm a bit unsure about the EPAC and the Northern Indian Ocean. Those are the genuine wild cards, as some years they can feature destructive storms while others years they are very tame.
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement
Gabrielle will probably get retired from the Australian lists for being the costliest storm in NZ history.
Freddy might just get the boot from the longevity alone.
Freddy might just get the boot from the longevity alone.
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement
JetFuel_SE wrote:Gabrielle will probably get retired from the Australian lists for being the costliest storm in NZ history.
Freddy might just get the boot from the longevity alone.
John was not retired because of how long he lasted, Freddy was very damaging compared to John.
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement
Iceresistance wrote:JetFuel_SE wrote:Gabrielle will probably get retired from the Australian lists for being the costliest storm in NZ history.
Freddy might just get the boot from the longevity alone.
John was not retired because of how long he lasted, Freddy was very damaging compared to John.
Then again, the BoM has a tendency to retire storms for pretty much any reason.
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Australia will probably retire the names Freddy, Gabrielle and Ilsa.
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Yeah, Ilsa is looking like a pretty good candidate for retirement. Freddy, despite not impacting Australia, is definitely going to be gone after what it did to Madagascar and Mozambique (not to mention its sheer impressiveness and longevity made it a record-book cyclone anyways).
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Mawar is likely to be the first typhoon name retired of this season.
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement
So is there a chance that Dora faces retirement? While it's not having any direct impacts I wonder how much blame will be put on Dora for those horrible fires in Maui since it was a cause of it.
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement
galaxy401 wrote:So is there a chance that Dora faces retirement? While it's not having any direct impacts I wonder how much blame will be put on Dora for those horrible fires in Maui since it was a cause of it.
I was kind of wondering too; the only thing is is it well known enough that the fires would be associated with the name "Dora?"
Would be interesting to see as Dora is also a retired Atlantic hurricane name
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement
galaxy401 wrote:So is there a chance that Dora faces retirement? While it's not having any direct impacts I wonder how much blame will be put on Dora for those horrible fires in Maui since it was a cause of it.
It was too small to have much of an effect, that was mostly other factors that happened to line up with Dora. Minor effects, yes, but the fires probably would have still been bad without it
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement
I think Hilary's memorable, strange, and impactful track sending it over California makes it perhaps among the strongest cases for EPAC name retirement in recent times
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement
Hilary will be probably retired, just for the fact it stayed as tropical storm when it reached the US state of California even thou her impact was much worse in Mexico
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement
Astromanía wrote:Hilary will be probably retired, just for the fact it stayed as tropical storm when it reached the US state of California even thou her impact was much worse in Mexico
The flooding and mudslides were quite severe though.
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement
Not a big surprise here I guess, but I think preliminary talks of yet another I name being retired may need to begin...
I think Imogen, Ivy, and Indira still continue to be among the top possible replacement female I names. It's also something recent for me personally, but I also met a girl in my workplace whose name was Inessa (first time I met a person with that name too). Inessa could also work as a replacement I name imho.
I think Imogen, Ivy, and Indira still continue to be among the top possible replacement female I names. It's also something recent for me personally, but I also met a girl in my workplace whose name was Inessa (first time I met a person with that name too). Inessa could also work as a replacement I name imho.
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement
Ilse, Ivana, Ina, Ilene, Isa, Inga, Irina...
Indira sounds like a good one.
Indira sounds like a good one.
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement
This is utterly ridiculous! From Irene in 2011 to Irma to Idalia to likely yet another new I name in 2029!
I'm iffy on Hilary. It is comparable to Nora in 1997 which didn't get retired despite directly affecting the Colorado River basin in California and Arizona as a tropical storm. Surely, Hilary was worse because it affected a heavily populated area but the USA has an unwritten $10 billion retirement requirement (the last USA storm to get retired with less than a $10 billion tag was Gustav way back in 2008) and Hilary definitely wouldn't meet that threshold, and it only caused 2 fatalities in Mexico.
I'm iffy on Hilary. It is comparable to Nora in 1997 which didn't get retired despite directly affecting the Colorado River basin in California and Arizona as a tropical storm. Surely, Hilary was worse because it affected a heavily populated area but the USA has an unwritten $10 billion retirement requirement (the last USA storm to get retired with less than a $10 billion tag was Gustav way back in 2008) and Hilary definitely wouldn't meet that threshold, and it only caused 2 fatalities in Mexico.
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement
I'm no longer sure Idalia is a lock for retirement, given its landfall in such an unpopulated location and weakening just before landfall.
Of course, information from many affected areas has yet to come to light but so far it seems comparable to Hurricane Sally of 2020, which was not retired despite heavy, but "sub-catastrophic" (compared to something on the level of, say, Ian, Katrina, Andrew, Irma, Maria, Dorian, even Michael) impacts.
Of course, information from many affected areas has yet to come to light but so far it seems comparable to Hurricane Sally of 2020, which was not retired despite heavy, but "sub-catastrophic" (compared to something on the level of, say, Ian, Katrina, Andrew, Irma, Maria, Dorian, even Michael) impacts.
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