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ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#1 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:39 pm

18z GFS wants to have none of this
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#2 Postby Spacecoast » Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:08 pm

0z Intensity guidance:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#3 Postby Keldeo1997 » Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:20 pm

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Very low shear and decent RH :double:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#5 Postby Teban54 » Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:13 pm

Spacecoast wrote:0z Intensity guidance:
https://i.ibb.co/1960m15/ed6.jpg

I know hurricane models are often unreliable until a system actually forms, but wow. Way more aggressive than I ever imagined.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#6 Postby REDHurricane » Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:08 pm

Both the 18z GFS and Euro are showing what should be a relatively favorable environment for development in the next several days, so I'm not too surprised that the hurricane models are optimistic at this point. It'll be interesting to see what the initial HAFS run looks like, too.

Decent looking moisture pocket without much dry air intrusion on both models at +90 hours:
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Favorable wind shear environment on both models:
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Both models already show increased vorticity around 12N 50W:
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#7 Postby zzzh » Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:08 pm

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Euro (top) does a much better job on initializing the system than the GFS (bottom).
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#8 Postby NDG » Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:08 pm

0z GFS coming in stronger in the short term with 95L.

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#9 Postby Blown Away » Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:13 pm

NDG wrote:0z GFS coming in stronger in the short term with 95L.

https://i.imgur.com/ldICUFG.png


Moving more WNW, deeper system going to gain latitude.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#10 Postby NDG » Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:16 pm

Blown Away wrote:
NDG wrote:0z GFS coming in stronger in the short term with 95L.

https://i.imgur.com/ldICUFG.png


Moving more WNW, deeper system going to gain latitude.


And away from the fast easterlies over the Caribbean, which is what EC ensembles that deepen it have been showing, that if it gains latitude as it enters the Caribbean the better chances of it getting stronger.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#11 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:24 pm

GEFS members will probably go off. Strongest GFS run in a while.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#12 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:24 pm

Survives the track thru Hispañola.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#13 Postby NDG » Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:29 pm

cycloneye wrote:Survives the track thru Hispañola.


With a very good UL environment.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#14 Postby Blown Away » Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:36 pm

NDG wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Survives the track thru Hispañola.


With a very good UL environment.


NHC 7 day cone ends E of the Islands and this GFS run seemed faster with 95L near PR/Hispaniola in @7 days.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#15 Postby Teban54 » Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:41 pm

Blown Away wrote:
NDG wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Survives the track thru Hispañola.


With a very good UL environment.


NHC 7 day cone ends E of the Islands and this GFS run seemed faster with 95L near PR/Hispaniola in @7 days.

The NHC cone on TWOs indicates the region where genesis may take place, not where the storm will be after genesis. In other words, the cone is saying that if 95L doesn't develop east of the islands, it probably won't develop after passing the islands. That doesn't mean an established system won't reach as far as the Eastern Caribbean within 7 days.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#16 Postby Blown Away » Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:44 pm

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JULY 21st GFS 00z - Over KW on July 29th…
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JULY 16th GFS 12z - Over KW on July 29th…

GFS keeps hinting at the same pattern…
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#17 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:45 pm

LA/MS border it looks like as a MH.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#18 Postby Blown Away » Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:48 pm

Kingarabian wrote:LA/MS border it looks like as a MH.


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00z GFS
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#19 Postby Teban54 » Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:02 am

While this is not in La La Land (the Gulf landfall is in 11 days), short-tern track and intensity can have significant impacts down the road. This run goes right through Hispaniola, but slight deviations can result in anything from dissipation in the Caribbean to a FL landfall or possibly even OTS. Of course, the system may also not get nearly as strong in the short term (thus dissipate even before the islands) or not even develop at all.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#20 Postby Ianswfl » Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:10 am

If this survives and goes just north of Haiti instead, south Florida might have some serious problems. 90 degree waters around the Bahamas.
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