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Re: EPAC: LIDIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#121 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 10, 2023 9:50 am

Hurricane Lidia Discussion Number 30
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP152023
900 AM MDT Tue Oct 10 2023

Lidia is strengthening as it approaches west-central Mexico.
Microwave images from a few hours ago indicated that the hurricane
has developed a well-defined inner core with an eyewall that is
nearly closed. Although an eye is not present in geostationary
satellite images, the central dense overcast has become more
circular during the last few hours. The Dvorak estimates have
increased and now range from 77 to 90 kt, and based on that data and
the improvement in the system's organization, the initial intensity
is increased to 85 kt. This increase in wind speed makes Lidia a
category 2 hurricane. The Air Force Hurricane Hunters are in route
to investigate Lidia this afternoon, and will provide a better
estimate of the hurricane's intensity. The outer rain bands of
Lidia are nearing Isla Las Marias and west-central Mexico, and
conditions are expected to worsen in that region through the day.

Lidia is accelerating to the east-northeast, and the latest initial
motion is 070/13 kt. The mid- to upper-level trough just to the
west of the hurricane will steer it quickly toward west-central
Mexico and the center should make landfall this evening. However,
as noted above, weather conditions will deteriorate well before
then since most of the strong winds are east of the center. The
NHC track forecast is a touch to the south of the previous one and
near the various consensus aids.

Additional strengthening is expected due to a combination of very
warm SSTs near 30 C and a favorable upper-level wind pattern.
Lidia will likely be near major hurricane strength when it reaches
the coast, and the NHC intensity forecast closely follows the
hurricane regional models, HAFS-A, HAFS-B, HWRF, and HMON. Rapid
weakening is expected once Lidia moves inland, and the hurricane is
expected to dissipate by late Wednesday over the rugged terrain of
central Mexico.

Based on the forecast, the government of Mexico has extended the
Hurricane and Tropical Storm Warnings southward.

Key Messages:

1. Lidia is expected to continue to strengthen as it approaches
west-central Mexico today. Dangerous hurricane-force winds are
expected within the Hurricane Warning area beginning this afternoon.

2. Heavy rains from Lidia will likely produce flash and urban
flooding, along with possible mudslides in areas of higher terrain
across the the state of Nayarit, southern portions of the state of
Sinaloa, and coastal portions of the state of Jalisco in western
Mexico.

3. A dangerous storm surge is expected near and to the south of
where the center of Lidia moves onshore along the coast of
west-central Mexico.

4. Swells from Lidia will cause dangerous surf and rip current
conditions along the west coast of Mexico and the Baja California
peninsula during the next couple of days.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 10/1500Z 19.2N 107.8W 85 KT 100 MPH
12H 11/0000Z 20.2N 105.8W 90 KT 105 MPH
24H 11/1200Z 22.2N 102.7W 35 KT 40 MPH...INLAND
36H 12/0000Z...DISSIPATED

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Re: EPAC: LIDIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#122 Postby Sciencerocks » Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:39 am

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#123 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:19 am

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Re: EPAC: LIDIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#124 Postby Yellow Evan » Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:04 pm

Eye starting to appear in visible. Recon may have got it at just the right time.
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#125 Postby Sciencerocks » Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:44 pm

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Re: EPAC: LIDIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#126 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:00 pm

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Hurricane Lidia Intermediate Advisory Number 30A
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP152023
1200 PM MDT Tue Oct 10 2023

...LIDIA BECOMES A MAJOR HURRICANE AS IT NEARS WEST-CENTRAL
MEXICO...
...DANGEROUS HURRICANE-FORCE WINDS AND FLOODING RAINS EXPECTED TO
BEGIN LATER THIS AFTERNOON...


SUMMARY OF 1200 PM MDT...1800 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...19.2N 107.2W
ABOUT 155 MI...260 KM SW OF PUERTO VALLARTA MEXICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...115 MPH...185 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...ENE OR 70 DEGREES AT 15 MPH...24 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...959 MB...28.32 INCHES
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Re: EPAC: LIDIA - Hurricane - Discussion update= Becomes a Major Cane (Cat 3) 115 mph

#127 Postby ElectricStorm » Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:03 pm

Wow that is some serious intensification right there, might get to 115kts before landfall at this rate
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Re: EPAC: LIDIA - Hurricane - Discussion update= Becomes a Major Cane (Cat 3) 115 mph

#128 Postby aspen » Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:25 pm

Was the 2pm update using recon data? Because comms went out during the pass and none of the center pass data is showing on Tropical Tidbits.
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Re: EPAC: LIDIA - Hurricane - Discussion update= Becomes a Major Cane (Cat 3) 115 mph

#129 Postby KirbyDude25 » Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:39 pm

Eye dropsonde found 954 mb with 19 knots of wind, supporting 952-953 mb. Either the NHC's 18Z estimate was too high, or this storm is bombing out (probably both considering their 15Z estimate was 971 mb)
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Re: EPAC: LIDIA - Hurricane - Discussion update= Becomes a Major Cane (Cat 3) 115 mph

#130 Postby Sciencerocks » Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:22 pm

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Re: EPAC: LIDIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#131 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:25 pm

Plane found new peak wind up to 116kt. Is the second one from down to up.

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Re: EPAC: LIDIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#132 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:37 pm

Best track up to 105 knots
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Re: EPAC: LIDIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#133 Postby Yellow Evan » Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:59 pm

...LIDIA STRENGTHENS RAPIDLY AND IS NEAR CATEGORY 4 STRENGTH...

Data from an Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft indicate
that Lidia has strengthened rapidly and has maximum winds near 125
mph (200 km/h). The minimum pressure is estimated to be 950 mb
(28.05 in.). An updated intensity forecast to reflect this change
will be issued within the next hour.

SUMMARY OF 145 PM MDT...1945 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...19.5N 106.8W
ABOUT 130 MI...120 KM SW OF PUERTO VALLARTA MEXICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...125 MPH...205 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...ENE OR 70 DEGREES AT 16 MPH...26 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...950 MB...28.05 INCHES
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Re: EPAC: LIDIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#134 Postby Hurricane2022 » Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:59 pm

Almost a Category 4!
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WTPZ65 KNHC 101943
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Hurricane Lidia Tropical Cyclone Update
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP152023
145 PM MDT Tue Oct 10 2023

...LIDIA STRENGTHENS RAPIDLY AND IS NEAR CATEGORY 4 STRENGTH...

Data from an Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft indicate
that Lidia has strengthened rapidly and has maximum winds near 125
mph (200 km/h). The minimum pressure is estimated to be 950 mb
(28.05 in.). An updated intensity forecast to reflect this change
will be issued within the next hour.

SUMMARY OF 145 PM MDT...1945 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...19.5N 106.8W
ABOUT 130 MI...120 KM SW OF PUERTO VALLARTA MEXICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...125 MPH...205 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...ENE OR 70 DEGREES AT 16 MPH...26 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...950 MB...28.05 INCHES

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Re: EPAC: LIDIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#135 Postby Yellow Evan » Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:08 pm

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Can see the jet interaction pumping up the storm.
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#136 Postby Yellow Evan » Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:10 pm

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Re: EPAC: LIDIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#137 Postby Yellow Evan » Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:18 pm

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Eye warming on IR. We might reach Category 4 before landfall.
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Re: EPAC: LIDIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#138 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:34 pm

Here comes the eye
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Re: EPAC: LIDIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#139 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:53 pm

lidia se esta moviendo
hacia el este-noreste cerca de 16 mph (26 km/h). Un poco más rápido
Se espera un movimiento hacia el este-noreste hasta esta noche. Sobre el
trayectoria prevista, el centro de Lidia debería tocar tierra dentro del
área de alerta de huracán en el centro-oeste de México esta tarde.
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Re: EPAC: LIDIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#140 Postby Yellow Evan » Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:55 pm

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Ok eye has warmed like 30C in less than an hour. Probably well into the 940s by now.
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