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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#41 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed May 25, 2016 3:32 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:
stormlover2013 wrote:to be honest its prob because it isn't a true tropical system.


Didn't Joaquin start out as such last season?

Yep, Joaquin formed from a ULL.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#42 Postby floridasun78 » Wed May 25, 2016 3:45 pm

interesting stuff what miami weather office DISCUSSION say about 91 lAt this point, folks should continue to monitor the evolution of
this potential system and forecast trends. This system also serves
as a great reminder that the Atlantic Hurricane Season is nearly
here, officially kicking off on June 1st, and now is a great time
to make your ready kits and check on your preparations and plans
for the coming season. It`s better to prepare your family,
business, and community organizations with a plan before any
potential threats!

As the potential system pushes close to the South Atlantic coast
between Jacksonville and the Outer Banks of the Carolinas next
week, according to the latest guidance, our area could see a
moderation of moisture and a return to diurnal thunderstorms and
sea breeze circulations driving the area pattern. The hybrid
nature of the potential system continues to drive lower confidence
in the forecast through the extended period.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#43 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Wed May 25, 2016 4:18 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:
stormlover2013 wrote:to be honest its prob because it isn't a true tropical system.


Didn't Joaquin start out as such last season?

Yep, Joaquin formed from a ULL.


Once Joaquin got organized and hit warmer water it did turn tropical and fed off the warm waters and lower shear.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#44 Postby NDG » Wed May 25, 2016 4:23 pm

91L's cyclogenesis is fairly normal for this time of the year, thanks to an upper level trough and a surface trough over relatively warm waters.
It will be interesting once it moves over the very warm gulf stream if it can gain tropical characteristics.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#45 Postby NDG » Wed May 25, 2016 4:31 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:
Didn't Joaquin start out as such last season?

Yep, Joaquin formed from a ULL.


Once Joaquin got organized and hit warmer water it did turn tropical and fed off the warm waters and lower shear.


Yep, the very warm waters near the Bahamas helped the ULL transform into a tropical cyclone, a not so seldom occurrence over the tropics.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#46 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Wed May 25, 2016 4:39 pm

NDG wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:Yep, Joaquin formed from a ULL.


Once Joaquin got organized and hit warmer water it did turn tropical and fed off the warm waters and lower shear.


Yep, the very warm waters near the Bahamas helped the ULL transform into a tropical cyclone, a not so seldom occurrence over the tropics.


Not saying this will get anywhere near as powerful as Joaquin.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#47 Postby cycloneye » Wed May 25, 2016 4:54 pm

GlennOBX wrote:Admins, please feel free to delete this if this isn't the board for this question.

Now that we have an invest, shouldn't it be showing up on the map at the top of the home page, instead of "No Active Storms"?

I could be wrong.


We are trying to fix it to have it working again.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#48 Postby NDG » Wed May 25, 2016 4:55 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:
NDG wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:
Once Joaquin got organized and hit warmer water it did turn tropical and fed off the warm waters and lower shear.


Yep, the very warm waters near the Bahamas helped the ULL transform into a tropical cyclone, a not so seldom occurrence over the tropics.


Not saying this will get anywhere near as powerful as Joaquin.


Absolutely not, TS at best.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#49 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Wed May 25, 2016 5:03 pm

NDG wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:
NDG wrote:
Yep, the very warm waters near the Bahamas helped the ULL transform into a tropical cyclone, a not so seldom occurrence over the tropics.


Not saying this will get anywhere near as powerful as Joaquin.


Absolutely not, TS at best.

I personally think low end hurricane not out of the question. Not likely though.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#50 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Wed May 25, 2016 6:13 pm

Ah, hello all, back for another season.

We've had quite a few years in a row now with storms before June 1. Wasn't there talk recently of extending the ATL Season to May 15?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#51 Postby TheAustinMan » Wed May 25, 2016 6:26 pm

HWRF is running for the first time on invest 91L.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#52 Postby CaliforniaResident » Wed May 25, 2016 6:34 pm

I'm calling for a landfalling cat 1 next week as the kick off to a very active and high impact Atlantic season.

Disclaimer: I'm just an amateur going on a hunch without any professional meteorological certification whatsoever.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#53 Postby cycloneye » Wed May 25, 2016 6:40 pm

Up to 30%-60%

SPECIAL TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
740 PM EDT WED MAY 25 2016

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

Cloudiness and showers over the western Atlantic Ocean a few hundred
miles northeast of the Bahamas are associated with a newly formed
area of low pressure. Environmental conditions are expected to
gradually become more conducive for development, and a tropical or
subtropical cyclone could form on Friday or Saturday. The low is
forecast to move slowly west-northwestward or northwestward and
approach the southeastern United States over the weekend. The next
Special Tropical Weather Outlook on this disturbance will be issued
by 9 AM EDT on Thursday. For additional information on this system,
see High Seas Forecasts issued by the National Weather Service.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...30 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...60 percent

&&
High Seas Forecasts issued by the National Weather Service can be
found under AWIPS Header NFDHSFAT1 and WMO Header FZNT01 KWBC.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#54 Postby AdamFirst » Wed May 25, 2016 7:36 pm

CaliforniaResident wrote:I'm calling for a landfalling cat 1 next week as the kick off to a very active and high impact Atlantic season.


Pump your brakes there...

also, make sure you post the disclaimer with any sort of perceived forecast.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#55 Postby Hurricaneman » Wed May 25, 2016 7:55 pm

I will say that this will probably at best be a mid range TS and most probably be a 45mph TS Sunday near landfall



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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#56 Postby CaliforniaResident » Wed May 25, 2016 8:02 pm

AdamFirst wrote:
CaliforniaResident wrote:I'm calling for a landfalling cat 1 next week as the kick off to a very active and high impact Atlantic season.


Pump your brakes there...

also, make sure you post the disclaimer with any sort of perceived forecast.


Just added one
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#57 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Wed May 25, 2016 8:03 pm

I will go with 65 to 70 mph storm.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#58 Postby cycloneye » Wed May 25, 2016 8:05 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#59 Postby Hurricaneman » Wed May 25, 2016 8:25 pm

Hurricane Andrew wrote:Ah, hello all, back for another season.

We've had quite a few years in a row now with storms before June 1. Wasn't there talk recently of extending the ATL Season to May 15?


I only really heard Mark Sudduth say it and looking at numbers it does make sense to an extent

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#60 Postby Evil Jeremy » Wed May 25, 2016 8:50 pm

Oh boy oh boy, here we go! I've recently relocated to Jacksonville from Fort Lauderdale (and previously Tampa), so I'm curious to see how the northern part of the state handles tropical situations. I'm also excited to see how the new GFS handles this scenario. Time to update the tropical bookmarks...
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