ATL: SANDY - Remnants - Discussion

[HurrMark]

Where is the looting? I can't get Twitter at work... That is a shock (although if this was 1977, it would not be a surprise)...

There was one other mention earlier, but here was the one I was posting about:
#NYPD calling for more cops, people "breaking into all stores" around Mermaid Ave. #crime #nyc #sandy

Just checked and there was a newer one posted about looting at Coney Island.

I think this may be a little overblown...this isn't 1977 anymore.

By the way, the NY Marathon will go on as planned this weekend.

[Terry]

And now this one:
#NYPD escalating mass looter situation to a 'Level One' asking for the Boro Task Force for manpower to come assemble at location #sandy #nyc

All I know is that this group monitors the police scanners, etc.

Where is the looting? I can't get Twitter at work... That is a shock (although if this was 1977, it would not be a surprise)...

There was one other mention earlier, but here was the one I was posting about:
#NYPD calling for more cops, people "breaking into all stores" around Mermaid Ave. #crime #nyc #sandy

Just checked and there was a newer one posted about looting at Coney Island.

I think this may be a little overblown...this isn't 1977 anymore.

By the way, the NY Marathon will go on as planned this weekend.

[Frank2]

Nothing posted on CNN.com or FOXNews.com or WABC-TV's local web site about looting - not to say there might be some, but nothing posted so far...

P.S. Mermaid Avenue - that's a pretty rough neighborhood...

[Sanibel]

That ABC TV coverage is the best. There's a post-hurricane situation going on there with lack of water, electricity etc in a place where there are concentrated people who depend on those services.

[chrisjslucia]

Another thing that gets me about this board .......

People generally flock here during the run-up to the event, start to dwindle off as it's happening, then disappear afterwards during the condition reports and clean-up.

Kind of like company coming to your house for something, then leaving you with the mess.

Ok, from personal experience. In the run up to the last hurricane here (Tomas) I was either preparing, shopping or on the board. During, we had no power = no internet. After we had no water, power and loads of flooding and general damage to clear up. So, still no internet. My view is you are maybe being a little harsh on this occasion?

[clifman]

Where can one find a detailed map of the path that Sandy took upon making landfall? (Not one like at the upper left here, but one that would show the precise landfall point and what towns etc. the storm went directly over.) Thanks.

[Sanibel]

The storm is holding form pretty well and dumping snow on West Virginia. Starting the north turn now.

[cycloneye]

This is good news that the stock market will reopen on Wednesday.

U.S. markets for stocks, options and other exchange-based derivatives remained closed for a second-straight session on Tuesday, marking the first two-day weather-related shutdown since 1888.

Trading will commence on the NYSE at 9:30 am under normal opening procedures.

“We are pleased to be able to return to normal trading tomorrow," said Duncan Niederauer, CEO of NYSE Euronext, in a statement. "Our building and systems were not damaged and our people have been working diligently to ensure that we have a smooth opening tomorrow.”

http://www.cnbc.com/id/49606999

[SevenTreesFarm]

I'm still here.
Been monitoring the live EMS scanner feeds today. It's just a mess everywhere

[Terry]

Nice update from Mark Suddath at HurricaneTrack.com:

I am currently in Belmar, NJ. The Governor flew in and I got to meet him, was introduced by the Mayor here. It seems that the briefing that I gave to the town yesterday afternoon about what to expect in the coming hours was very helpful in their understanding of what to expect. Quite an honor to be able to assist a small town using experience as a teacher.

It is quite a mess here. Some areas of Ocean Blvd are heavily damaged by the surge. A lot of flooding even away from the ocean in the bays and other waterways. The good news is that, at least for here, no reports of any serious injuries.

I am hoping to get up to Long Branch to pull out the equipment that I set up yesterday. I may not be able to - we shall see. I'll post more here as the day progresses.

[Ntxw]

Another thing that gets me about this board .......

People generally flock here during the run-up to the event, start to dwindle off as it's happening, then disappear afterwards during the condition reports and clean-up.

Kind of like company coming to your house for something, then leaving you with the mess.

hehe, that's very true. lots of build of posts prior to the storm hitting, then after the storm hits, the posts on the board are almost all gone, even though hearing the reports of the storm is what people want to hear most. I never quite understood the logic in that....

This board and many boards, often are filled with weather enthusiasts. They enjoy extremes of weather and seeing how it works scientifically. However (im sure this applies to everyone) no one wants one of these things to effect people. People posts lots prior to landfall because at that time they can post about the science that goes into it without human safety involved at the time. In my case (and again I'm sure for most if not all) during landfall and when it effects people they choose to not waste posts and let pro mets or people of skill in regards to lives/property to post meaningful information that effects people.

[sleepysilverdoor]

I'm not really sure what else there is to be done when it comes to keeping this thread open. Now the majority of the damage is extremely evident on almost every major media outlet, spreading across all of the social networks, and I'm sure most of the people affected by the storm are probably out looking at the damage. There's not a whole lot left to discuss.

Should we just turn this into a 'let's repost damage pictures we've found' thread?

[brunota2003]

EDIT: I see it was posted above me.

[wxman57]

Where can one find a detailed map of the path that Sandy took upon making landfall? (Not one like at the upper left here, but one that would show the precise landfall point and what towns etc. the storm went directly over.) Thanks.

You can go online here and plot your own:

http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atl ... /index.php

However, I caution you that Sandy was not a typical TC at landfall, in that the worst effects were not near the center. The strongest winds were located 100 or so miles NORTH of the center into Long Island. So don't equate the precise track of the center with the strongest winds/highest surge/greatest rainfall, etc.

[sleepysilverdoor]

Breezy point, Queens, NY.

Source: Business Insider.

[sleepysilverdoor]

And another...Verizon headquarters in Manhattan.

Source: Baltimore Sun

[wxman57]

If you do post pics/videos, please identify where the picture was taken as well as the source of the photos/videos.

I'm hearing early damage estimates of $45 billion.

And note that there are already a number of "fake" damage pics going around:
http://mashable.com/2012/10/29/fake-hur ... dy-photos/

[CrazyC83]

Where is the looting? I can't get Twitter at work... That is a shock (although if this was 1977, it would not be a surprise)...

There was one other mention earlier, but here was the one I was posting about:
#NYPD calling for more cops, people "breaking into all stores" around Mermaid Ave. #crime #nyc #sandy

Just checked and there was a newer one posted about looting at Coney Island.

I think this may be a little overblown...this isn't 1977 anymore.

By the way, the NY Marathon will go on as planned this weekend.

It sounds crazy, but that marathon going ahead is a good idea. If they keep it to arterial roads, most likely they will have them all cleared, and it would boost their spirits in a tough time.

[tolakram]

Interesting that up to Sandy the 2012 season was busy but uneventful (unless I'm forgetting something), and now the season will be remembered for one particular hurricane, similar to 1969 for Camille, 1972 for Agnes, 1992 for Andrew and 2005 for Katrina, so again as they say it only takes one...

P.S. As far as lower Manhattan goes, at least this morning any additional storm surge flooding wasn't evident, but during the lunch hour I did read that 10 subway tunnels are flooded - from my memory that's most of the system into and out of Manhattan...

P.P.S. Yes, I'm sure Ozonepete is asleep or his Internet connection is down - his professional forecast about the effects of Sandy's landfall were correct, unfortunately...

Frank

Don't forget Isaac.

[brunota2003]

From NC:

Red Wolf Recovery ‏@redwolfrecovery
Post-Sandy Update: Wolf facilities & the captive wolves in eastern NC survived the storm. We'll continue to monitor the wild pop'n.