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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#41 Postby CaneCurious » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:40 pm

The 12Z Euro looks pretty close to home.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#42 Postby wxman57 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:40 pm

dwsqos2 wrote:968 mb at hour 168 on 12z euro; yeah that's a little robust.


... and heading toward the lower Texas coast. Very similar to the Canadian, but it stalls the storm south of the LA coast rather than just inland. Both the Canadian and Euro have it missing the trof to the north, being blocked, then moving SW. GFS is the only model to forecast it to be picked up by the trof and move off to the NE. It's definitely the outlier.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#43 Postby ROCK » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:41 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Heads SW toward the south Texas coast at 168 hours...a stalled out or looping hurricane in the Gulf? This should be fun for forcasters :cheesy:



2 runs in a row with the EURO( in the short term) is like doubling down with 2 aces..... :lol:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#44 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:42 pm

wxman57 wrote:
dwsqos2 wrote:968 mb at hour 168 on 12z euro; yeah that's a little robust.


... and heading toward the lower Texas coast. Very similar to the Canadian, but it stalls the storm south of the LA coast rather than just inland. Both the Canadian and Euro have it missing the trof to the north, being blocked, then moving SW. GFS is the only model to forecast it to be picked up by the trof and move off to the NE. It's definitely the outlier.


The Euro is very close to getting picked up by the trough to be fair. How far west this gets in the short term is going to make a huge difference in this getting picked up or left behind in the Gulf imo.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#45 Postby Rainband » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:43 pm

Early models runs are fun. Let the flip Flops begin..... :)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#46 Postby Clint_TX » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:44 pm

wxman57 wrote:
dwsqos2 wrote:968 mb at hour 168 on 12z euro; yeah that's a little robust.


... and heading toward the lower Texas coast. Very similar to the Canadian, but it stalls the storm south of the LA coast rather than just inland. Both the Canadian and Euro have it missing the trof to the north, being blocked, then moving SW. GFS is the only model to forecast it to be picked up by the trof and move off to the NE. It's definitely the outlier.



Very exciting times sir! I'm sure Nelson is getting pumped for this forecast.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Recon Discussion

#47 Postby underthwx » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:45 pm

is recon for today or tommorrow?
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#48 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:45 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Recon Discussion

#49 Postby PauleinHouston » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:47 pm

underthwx wrote:is recon for today or tommorrow?


Scheduled tomorrow at this point
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#50 Postby Bruiser » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:47 pm

Big N00B here, but how much do we think Katia will affect this? If she escapes to the north could that pull stb Lee toward FL?
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#51 Postby Air Force Met » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:48 pm

caneman wrote: Just as I suspected. Euro has been all over the place. Euro Fail...Still too early though to know for sure..


Give it a rest. So you don't like the Euro. The GFS has had plenty of failures this year. Euro was pretty consistent with Irene, keeping the track close to the coast...when the GFS has started moving it out to sea and had to bring it back towards the coast. The GFS was horrible with Don. The Euro wasn't much better. A blend worked OK.

It's a model. The GFS is a model. Any Euro-hating...or even GFS-hating agenda's are not going to be tolerated. Either add something constructive or don't add anything at all.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#52 Postby wxman57 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:48 pm

Ivanhater wrote:
The Euro is very close to getting picked up by the trough to be fair. How far west this gets in the short term is going to make a huge difference in this getting picked up or left behind in the Gulf imo.


Yep, almost but not quite picked up. Wonder if the 00Z GFS will do a switch and show it blocked then moving west once the blocking high moves east?
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#53 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:49 pm

ECM really does explode this system, gets down to 968mbs, so it shows pretty condusive conditions aloft to get that strong, esp if it spends the best part of a week out there.
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#54 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:50 pm

GFS wipes New Orleans off the map,

Aswell as Katia being a CONUS system, something else develops behind it.


http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfstc2.c ... =Animation
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#55 Postby fci » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:51 pm

I'll give it 2-3 days before the thread on 93L/Future Lee passes the thread on Katia in number of pages....... 8-)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#56 Postby HurricaneBelle » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:52 pm

Ivanhater wrote:a stalled out or looping hurricane in the Gulf? This should be fun for forcasters :cheesy:


Yeah, we don't "Juan" that to happen again:

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Juan sat off the Louisiana coast for a day, moved inland, and then came back out again.
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#57 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:52 pm

I don't see how New Orleans gets wiped off the map on that run.



SEASON_CANCELED wrote:GFS wipes New Orleans off the map,

Aswell as Katia being a CONUS system, something else develops behind it.


http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfstc2.c ... =Animation
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#58 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:55 pm

Stormcenter wrote:I don't see how New Orleans gets wiped off the map on that run.



SEASON_CANCELED wrote:GFS wipes New Orleans off the map,

Aswell as Katia being a CONUS system, something else develops behind it.


http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfstc2.c ... =Animation


A category 1 sitting over gulf waters, stalled out for a week, next to a city built in a giant ditch? Flood much?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#59 Postby Rockin4NOLA » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:56 pm

:uarrow: Yea can someone explain that GFS map to me? I dont understand how to analyze it..sorry real noob here and concerned about this storm....any help greatly appreciated.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#60 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:58 pm

Rockin4NOLA wrote::uarrow: Yea can someone explain that GFS map to me? I dont understand how to analyze it..sorry real noob here and concerned about this storm....any help greatly appreciated.



I didnt want to alarm you. Its really too early, models tend to destroy cities many times over. Dont panic, models will shift around.
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