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#41 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:27 pm

wobble wars have already begun it looks like :double: :uarrow:

Hurakan, yeah probably an MLC.
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#42 Postby CourierPR » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:29 pm

Yep, Gatorcane. Get the coffee and Visine ready.
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#43 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:34 pm

18:00 UTC BEST TRACK for 91L.

AL, 91, 2008091118, , BEST, 0, 222N, 662W, 25, 1013, DB,
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#44 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:39 pm

Keep as a separate entity. From the NHC's analysis, this is a repeat of TD10/TD12 (Katrina).
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#45 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:40 pm

I see a pretty vigorous MLC drifting NW:

http://metofis.rsmas.miami.edu/~dortt/s ... 1_loop.gif
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#46 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:42 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:Keep as a separate entity. From the NHC's analysis, this is a repeat of TD10/TD12 (Katrina).


Yes,if this develops into a Tropical Cyclone,it will be TD 11 and Tropical Storm Kyle.
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#47 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:46 pm

Considering that yesterday there was nothing organized at all where 91L is at and now I see a well-defined MLC and some convection (albeit not deep yet)...91L has made some quick progress.
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#48 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:47 pm

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Lets see if DMAX can help this system by tomorrow morning
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#49 Postby jinftl » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:48 pm

A "Bahama Bomber"

I wonder if Ike will exert any influence on 91L....as far as strength or direction of movement


CrazyC83 wrote:Keep as a separate entity. From the NHC's analysis, this is a repeat of TD10/TD12 (Katrina).
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#50 Postby ronjon » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:49 pm

From NWS Tampa Bay AFD:

DURING LATE TUESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY THE
UPPER AND SURFACE RIDGE WILL BECOME ALIGNED SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST FROM THE GULF ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA AND INTO THE WESTERN ATLANTIC...WHILE AN INVERTED TROUGH MOVES WEST ACROSS THE SOUTHERN MOST PENINSULA AND INTO THE EASTERN GULF...AND A COOL FRONT WASHES OUT OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN STATES AND NORTHERN GULF. INCREASING MOISTURE (PW`S INCREASING BACK TOWARD 2") COMBINED WITH THE INVERTED
TROUGH WILL HELP TO INCREASE RAIN CHANCES BACK TOWARD CLIMO LEVELS
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#51 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:51 pm

Check out 91L from afar on this wide atlantic visible........certainly looks to be suspicious if you ask me:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/loop-vis.html
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#52 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:54 pm

Not seeing Much here Gatorcane...Looking like it will pass thru FL as a Wave most likely..few Xtra Showers sunday...
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#53 Postby bob rulz » Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:01 pm

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:Not seeing Much here Gatorcane...Looking like it will pass thru FL as a Wave most likely..few Xtra Showers sunday...


Way too early to say. There's still LOTS of water between it and Florida.
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#54 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:06 pm

Miami:

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
227 PM EDT THU SEP 11 2008

LONG TERM...SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY...GFS BRINGS THE LOW PRESSURE
AREA NORTH OF PUERTO RICO WESTWARD TO THE FLORIDA STRAITS SAT
NIGHT TO SUNDAY. HOWEVER, IT DOES NOT SEEM TO HAVE MUCH OF AN
IMPACT ON OUR LOCAL WEATHER. WL HOWEVER, INDICATE A SLIGHT CHANCE
OF PRECIP SAT THROUGH MONDAY TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS. OTHERWISE WL STAY
CLOSE TO CLIMO WITH MOSTLY ISOLD TO LOW SCT POPS THROUGH THE
EXTENDED PACKAGE.

Link: http://www.srh.noaa.gov/fwd/productview ... &version=0
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#55 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:22 pm

convection burst right near under the MLC in the last frame...looks like light to moderate shear from the SW

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#56 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:23 pm

This needs a major shot of convection to have any chance.
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#57 Postby bob rulz » Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:26 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:This needs a major shot of convection to have any chance.


Agreed.

But again...lots of water.
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#58 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:28 pm

bob rulz wrote:
Dean4Storms wrote:This needs a major shot of convection to have any chance.


Agreed.

But again...lots of water.


I predict its going to get a big shot of convection probably sometime tonight toward DMIN that will he sheared some to the NE -- three key reasons:

-excellent moisture envelope
-vigorous MLC
-warm SSTs

Unfortunately this is not going poof folks.
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#59 Postby KWT » Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:31 pm

This feels like De ja vu all over again with a big hurricane in the gulf and a system trying to form to its east. As long as this doesn't get too close to Ike I see no reason why this can't develop but thats a big if of course.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#60 Postby CourierPR » Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:59 pm

That piece of energy southeast of Puerto Rico appears to be headed to join 91L.
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