Typhoon Man-yi (04W)

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Re: Tropical Storm Man-yi (04W)

#281 Postby HurricaneBill » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:10 pm

Reports say Man-Yi has left 2 dead, 2 missing, and 68 injured in Japan.
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#282 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:10 pm

HurricaneBill wrote:
cycloneye wrote:One question is if that typhoon turns into a Supertyphoon how will we procced?


There's no such thing as a super typhoon anymore. Remember? :wink:


No,I was talking about future systems.
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#283 Postby HurricaneBill » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:12 pm

cycloneye wrote:
HurricaneBill wrote:
cycloneye wrote:One question is if that typhoon turns into a Supertyphoon how will we procced?


There's no such thing as a super typhoon anymore. Remember? :wink:


No,I was talking about future systems.


JMA doesn't use the term, so there can't be any.
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#284 Postby WindRunner » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:23 pm

Yeah, it's just the JTWC that uses it any more, therefore it's not official and wouldn't effect a thread.

Besides, that would probably be handled the same way a hurricane would if it was upgraded to a major hurricane or a Cat 5 - nothing happens to the thread, save for the increase in people's excitement :P
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Re: Tropical Storm Man-yi (04W)

#285 Postby Derek Ortt » Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:35 am

what were the peak winds in Japan at the time of landfall? Was there anything that justified the intensity estimate of 85KT for 10 minute. If so, there could have been some serious damage to southern Japan
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Re: Tropical Storm Man-yi (04W)

#286 Postby Chacor » Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:38 am

Derek Ortt wrote:what were the peak winds in Japan at the time of landfall? Was there anything that justified the intensity estimate of 85KT for 10 minute. If so, there could have been some serious damage to southern Japan


Lowest pressure recorded at Naha was 940 hPa, which would correspond fairly well with 85 kt 10-minutes. No direct obs from the ground at point of landfall that I know of.
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Re: Tropical Storm Man-yi (04W)

#287 Postby WindRunner » Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:36 am

Derek Ortt wrote:what were the peak winds in Japan at the time of landfall? Was there anything that justified the intensity estimate of 85KT for 10 minute. If so, there could have been some serious damage to southern Japan


Mainland Japan still had the 953hPa readings for about 20 minutes, with 10kt winds. The obs are in the other thread (typhoon one) if you wish to see them.
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Re: Tropical Storm Man-yi (04W) (Becomes Extratropical)

#288 Postby P.K. » Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:48 pm

WTPQ20 RJTD 152100
RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TS 0704 MAN-YI (0704)
ANALYSIS
PSTN 152100UTC 35.6N 145.3E FAIR
MOVE ENE 12KT
PRES 985HPA
MXWD 045KT
GUST 065KT
30KT 350NM SOUTH 180NM NORTH
FORECAST
24HF 162100UTC 36.9N 152.3E 100NM 70%
MOVE E 10KT
PRES 985HPA
MXWD 045KT
GUST 065KT
45HF 171800UTC 37.8N 157.5E 160NM 70% EXTRATROPICAL LOW =
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#289 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:30 pm

Man-Yi gave July a strong touch!!!
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Re: Tropical Storm Man-yi (04W) (Becomes Extratropical)

#290 Postby HurricaneBill » Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:27 pm

Is Japan very surge-prone?
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Re: Tropical Storm Man-yi (04W)

#291 Postby Ptarmigan » Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:49 pm

Chacor wrote:
Lowest pressure recorded at Naha was 940 hPa, which would correspond fairly well with 85 kt 10-minutes. No direct obs from the ground at point of landfall that I know of.


940 hPa translates into around 105 to 113 kt 1 minute wind.
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#292 Postby Chacor » Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:06 pm

Not dead just right yet from the JMA, although they are notorious for not declaring clearly-extratropical storms extratropical.

RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TS 0704 MAN-YI (0704)
ANALYSIS
PSTN 160000UTC 35.1N 145.7E FAIR
MOVE ENE 12KT
PRES 985HPA
MXWD 045KT
GUST 065KT
30KT 300NM SOUTH 220NM NORTH
FORECAST
24HF 170000UTC 36.6N 152.3E 100NM 70%
MOVE E 13KT
PRES 990HPA
MXWD 040KT
GUST 060KT
48HF 180000UTC 37.7N 158.4E 160NM 70% EXTRATROPICAL LOW
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#293 Postby Chacor » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:07 am

TS 0704 (MAN-YI)
Issued at 06:00 UTC, 16 July 2007
RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TS 0704 MAN-YI (0704)
ANALYSIS
PSTN 160600UTC 34.9N 149.0E FAIR
MOVE E 15KT
PRES 985HPA
MXWD 045KT
GUST 065KT
30KT 300NM SOUTH 220NM NORTH
FORECAST
24HF 170600UTC 36.3N 156.4E 100NM 70% EXTRATROPICAL LOW
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#294 Postby Chacor » Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:58 am

Still alive at 15Z although forecast to be extratropical by 18Z according to the ICAO advisory...

TS 0704 (MAN-YI)
Issued at 15:00 UTC, 16 July 2007
RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TS 0704 MAN-YI (0704)
ANALYSIS
PSTN 161500UTC 35.7N 151.7E POOR
MOVE ENE 20KT
PRES 985HPA
MXWD 045KT
GUST 065KT
30KT 350NM SOUTHEAST 300NM NORTHWEST
FORECAST
24HF 171500UTC 38.0N 158.5E 100NM 70% EXTRATROPICAL LOW
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#295 Postby miamicanes177 » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:16 pm

Derek lost but no post from him admitting it. Hmmmmmmm
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Re: Tropical Storm Man-yi (04W) (Becomes Extratropical)

#296 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:11 pm

As a scientist, I am waiting for best track.


If BT says this is a cat 3, then I was beyond wrong on this storm. But to say either way for a MARGINAL cat 3 storm, as assessed operationally, prior to all of the data anlaysis is inappropriate and leads to the type of confusion we say when Katrina was incorrectly estimated operationally as a cat 4 when it struck Louisiana
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#297 Postby Chacor » Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:49 pm

LOW
Issued at 00:00 UTC, 17 July 2007
RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME DEVELOPED LOW FORMER TS 0704 MAN-YI (0704)
ANALYSIS
PSTN 170000UTC 37N 153E
MOVE ENE 10KT
PRES 988HPA
MXWD 040KT
30KT 350NM SOUTHEAST 300NM NORTHWEST

FINALLY! :blowup:
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#298 Postby Normandy » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:46 am

miamicanes177 wrote:Derek lost but no post from him admitting it. Hmmmmmmm


I wouldnt be celebrating so fast.
Remember that this passed over Okinawa (The eastern eyewall) as a CAT 4 and the island only recorded 65kt-70kt winds. Thats fairly low for a storm initialized at 125 kt.

I would bet BT drops this to a 2.
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Re: Tropical Storm Man-yi (04W) (Becomes Extratropical)

#299 Postby alan1961 » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:55 pm

Was just wondering after this lastest typhoon clipped japan whether it had any influence on triggering the latest earthquake that has hit the country..there have been theories on whether typhoons, especially the super typhoons have any effect on earthquake zones in these regions and all to often we get these events that do occur at the same time or is it just a coincidence.

http://blogs.nature.com/news/blog/2006/ ... thqua.html
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#300 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:57 pm

Pure coincidence. Hurricanes, or any other weather fenomenon for that matter, have no impact on Earth's seismic activity. Japan lies on the Ring of Fire, the region with the most active volcanoes and earthquake activity.
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