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#21 Postby Chacor » Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:46 am

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Re: Invest 91L East Atlantic-Discussions & Images

#22 Postby Sanibel » Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:48 am

Raggy, but it is pulling that surface flow to its NW down into it, like Fleix.

I guess we can extrapolate another Caribbean-bound cyclone.
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#23 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:50 am

Sanibel wrote:Raggy, but it is pulling that surface flow to its NW down into it, like Fleix.

I guess we can extrapolate another Caribbean-bound cyclone.



This time the high pressure is not that strong. We may see a fish out of this if we get lucky!!
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#24 Postby OURAGAN » Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:53 am

May be for the USA, but not for the lesser Antilles yet.
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#25 Postby Gustywind » Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:00 am

Our first concern should be for the islands, it appears. This system may become a real threat to them.
Absolutely Zardoz, the first models don't put it too far away of the islands, only one model is ok for a fish..... :double:, too early to speculate but the first trend seems tu put it once again on the ISLANDS. Maybe this time heading little to the north, Leewards/ Northern Leewards islands, Puerto Rico hope no... :spam: Plenty of time to watch this system!
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#26 Postby Gustywind » Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:03 am

May be for the USA, but not for the lesser Antilles yet.

Yeah hope it will go fishing OURAGAN :cheesy:, but i don't like this first plots :eek:
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Re: Invest 91L East Atlantic-Discussions & Images

#27 Postby chadtm80 » Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:08 am

Here is the s2k 91L image.. Both 91L and 90L info will be up on storm2k shortly..(Gabrielle already there)


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#28 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:09 am

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#29 Postby Gustywind » Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:18 am

Tropical wave off the coast of Africa (91L)
A strong tropical wave near 10N 34W, a few hundred miles southwest of the Cape Verdes Islands off the coast of Africa, is kicking up some disorganized heavy thunderstorm activity. This disturbance was designated "91L" by NHC this morning. Last night's QuikSCAT pass showed a broad, ill-defined circulation associated with the disturbance. The disturbance is under about 10 knots of wind shear. Shear is forecast to remain below 10 knots over the disturbance over the next few days, and this system has the potential to develop as it heads west at 15 mph. Several of the computer models do develop this system, and predict that it may begin to acquire a more northwesterly track in response to a big non-tropical storm over the mid-Atlantic between Europe and the U.S. This disturbance has an environment similar to the one that spawned Hurricane Dean. The GFS-based SHIPS intensity model is forecasting that this will be a Category 1 hurricane 4-5 days from now, and I am expecting at least a tropical storm will form by then.

I'll have an update Monday morning.
Jeff Masters
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#30 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:33 am

Looks like Humberto or Ingrid is going to come from this...
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#31 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:35 am

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Convection decreasing a little bit. Maybe feeling the effects of the approaching DMIN.
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#32 Postby chadtm80 » Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:35 am

Check homepage for info on 91L now.. Scroll below Gabrielle.. http://www.storm2k.org/wx/
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#33 Postby canegrl04 » Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:16 am

Gustywind wrote:Tropical wave off the coast of Africa (91L)
A strong tropical wave near 10N 34W, a few hundred miles southwest of the Cape Verdes Islands off the coast of Africa, is kicking up some disorganized heavy thunderstorm activity. This disturbance was designated "91L" by NHC this morning. Last night's QuikSCAT pass showed a broad, ill-defined circulation associated with the disturbance. The disturbance is under about 10 knots of wind shear. Shear is forecast to remain below 10 knots over the disturbance over the next few days, and this system has the potential to develop as it heads west at 15 mph. Several of the computer models do develop this system, and predict that it may begin to acquire a more northwesterly track in response to a big non-tropical storm over the mid-Atlantic between Europe and the U.S. This disturbance has an environment similar to the one that spawned Hurricane Dean. The GFS-based SHIPS intensity model is forecasting that this will be a Category 1 hurricane 4-5 days from now, and I am expecting at least a tropical storm will form by then.

I'll have an update Monday morning.
Jeff Masters


Cat 1 4-5 days from now :eek: I hope US coastal residents are thinking of preparations. Steve Lyons said TD in 24-36 hours
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#34 Postby Derek Ortt » Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:18 am

SHIPS assumes that this is already a TD; thus, its output should not be used

That said, this could become a hurricane and could be near the islands in 5 days time
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#35 Postby DIDDLESBABE » Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:23 am

Derek - When will we begin to get a better handle on the direction ?

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Re: Invest 91L East Atlantic-Discussions=11:30 AM TWO Shortly

#36 Postby njweather » Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:28 am

I have a question...

The 00Z GFS (09/09) moves the large North-Atlantic low Northwest, and replaces it with a High Pressure system at around 60-84 hours.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... l_lu.shtml

Wouldn't this development remove the pull Northwards?
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Re: Invest 91L East Atlantic-Discussions=11:30 AM TWO Shortly

#37 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:31 am

ABNT20 KNHC 091530
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL1
1130 AM EDT SUN SEP 9 2007

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IS ISSUING ADVISORIES ON TROPICAL
STORM GABRIELLE...CENTERED NEAR THE COAST OF NORTH CAROLINA BETWEEN
CAPE LOOKOUT AND OCRACOKE INLET.

A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE...ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE...IS
LOCATED ABOUT 700 MILES WEST-SOUTHWEST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS
AND IS PRODUCING A LARGE AREA OF CLOUDINESS AND THUNDERSTORMS.
CONDITIONS APPEAR CONDUCIVE FOR GRADUAL DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM
DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS AS IT MOVES WESTWARD AT ABOUT 15
MPH.

$$

FORECASTER KNABB

WWWW
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#38 Postby Gustywind » Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:47 am

Gustywind wrote:
Tropical wave off the coast of Africa (91L)
A strong tropical wave near 10N 34W, a few hundred miles southwest of the Cape Verdes Islands off the coast of Africa, is kicking up some disorganized heavy thunderstorm activity. This disturbance was designated "91L" by NHC this morning. Last night's QuikSCAT pass showed a broad, ill-defined circulation associated with the disturbance. The disturbance is under about 10 knots of wind shear. Shear is forecast to remain below 10 knots over the disturbance over the next few days, and this system has the potential to develop as it heads west at 15 mph. Several of the computer models do develop this system, and predict that it may begin to acquire a more northwesterly track in response to a big non-tropical storm over the mid-Atlantic between Europe and the U.S. This disturbance has an environment similar to the one that spawned Hurricane Dean. The GFS-based SHIPS intensity model is forecasting that this will be a Category 1 hurricane 4-5 days from now, and I am expecting at least a tropical storm will form by then.

I'll have an update Monday morning.
Jeff Masters

cangrl04 wrote;
"Cat 1 4-5 days from now I hope US coastal residents are thinking of preparations. Steve Lyons said TD in 24-36 hours"

Heuu cangrl04, yeah , but us in the islands will be first concerned if this is confirmed for us before you in the US :roll: so in my humble thought with my whole humility there's plenty of time of to speculate on the perfect path of this, we will see what happens, but i like your suroptimism lool :spam: :P
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#39 Postby Gustywind » Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:51 am

SHIPS assumes that this is already a TD; thus, its output should not be used

That said, this could become a hurricane and could be near the islands in 5 days time
Are you sure about that Derek Ortt?
Not good news for us in the islands maybe :double: :roll: :(
At what latitude do you tkink it will cross this time Derek ? tkanks gusty! :wink: :cheesy:
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Re: Invest 91L East Atlantic-Discussions=11:30 AM TWO at page 2

#40 Postby Sanibel » Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:55 am

15mph forward speed is slower than Dean. So that means the ridge isn't as strong and a possibly more WNW track could follow.
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