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#1821 Postby Dmetal81 » Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:50 am

Well, the buoy in question has been reporting rapidly increasing winds and dropping pressure all night/morning, seas have risen 5 ft in the last 8 hours and windspeed has been sustained at over 30knts since 5am... check it out

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.p ... tion=42001

Looking at all the evidence, there isnt much to stop her from becoming a hurricane.

ULL to the east is helping vent that sector, Front to the northwest is also doing the same. Gulf of mexico waters are very warm and she has yet to pass over the warmest part. She has developed that SW-NE orientation. Convection is now over the center, and outflow looks excellent. IMO she looks almost as good as charlie this morning, just a tad bit smaller :lol:
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#1822 Postby Dmetal81 » Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:56 am

I just noticed this. That buoy position.....

25.84 N 89.66 W

10am CDT Bonnie Position

NEAR LATITUDE 25.9 NORTH...LONGITUDE 90.3 WEST OR

How convenient for the center of Bonnie to pass so close to a buoy :eek:
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#1823 Postby Thunder44 » Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:59 am

soonertwister wrote:Thunder, that's from almost 4800 msl, way above the surface. Let's see what they find when they go down low.


Surface winds are supposed to be weaker than at flight level.

I see the buoy data, but I don't understand the vortex message is showing a weaker storm. Maybe they didn't get into center, why the pressure is higher and also, the northern quad may have weaker winds.
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#1824 Postby CalmBeforeStorm » Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:01 am

DT at one point posted that Bonnie (at that time a wave) had as much chance of becoming a TC as Nader had of winning the presidency. Hmmmm...President Nader.
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#1825 Postby Dean4Storms » Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:04 am

If my approx. calculation is correct wouldn't this buoy be about 20-30 miles east of the center now?

That is SCARY!!!
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#1826 Postby Dmetal81 » Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:06 am

Whats scary is the water temp at that buoy. 85.5 degrees... thats bathwater!
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#1827 Postby Thunder44 » Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:11 am

URNT14 KNHC 111533
SUPPLEMENTARY VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
01271 10909 12524 11813 06010
02269 20907 22520 21815 05011
03267 30905 32520 31814 99005
04265 40904 42518 41814 07011
05262 50903 52512 51714 99005
06260 60901 62503 62210 01019
MF259 M0900 MF051
OBS 01 AT 1436Z
OBS 06 AT 1500Z
OBS 01 SFC WND 99005
01257 10897 12506 11816 24048
02255 20895 22523 21716 23039
03254 30893 32528 31716 23038
04252 40891 42532 41815 23035
05251 50889 52531 51809 22027
MF257 M0899 MF065
OBS 01 AT 1513Z
OBS 05 AT 1531Z
OBS 05 SFC WND 21015
RMK AF984 0802A BONNIE OB 08

65kt flight level winds being reported now!
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#1828 Postby Dean4Storms » Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:23 am

Thunder44 wrote:URNT14 KNHC 111533
SUPPLEMENTARY VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
01271 10909 12524 11813 06010
02269 20907 22520 21815 05011
03267 30905 32520 31814 99005
04265 40904 42518 41814 07011
05262 50903 52512 51714 99005
06260 60901 62503 62210 01019
MF259 M0900 MF051
OBS 01 AT 1436Z
OBS 06 AT 1500Z
OBS 01 SFC WND 99005
01257 10897 12506 11816 24048
02255 20895 22523 21716 23039
03254 30893 32528 31716 23038
04252 40891 42532 41815 23035
05251 50889 52531 51809 22027
MF257 M0899 MF065
OBS 01 AT 1513Z
OBS 05 AT 1531Z
OBS 05 SFC WND 21015
RMK AF984 0802A BONNIE OB 08

65kt flight level winds being reported now!


Good God Almighty, she better stop this crap!
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#1829 Postby Nimbus » Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:36 am

10:50 am SSE ( 166 deg ) 41.8 kts
10:40 am SSE ( 160 deg ) 39.0 kts
10:30 am SSE ( 168 deg ) 39.0 kts
10:20 am SSE ( 167 deg ) 39.4 kts
10:10 am SSE ( 164 deg ) 35.7 kts
10:00 am S ( 183 deg ) 42.3 kts

Winds backing around to the South Southeast again?
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Vortex Message from Bonnie...

#1830 Postby Bane » Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:11 pm

000
URNT12 KNHC 111644
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 11/1644Z
B. 26 DEG 06 MIN N
89 DEG 34 MIN W
C. 850 MB 1453 M
D. 55 KT
E. 087 DEG 006 NM
F. 199 DEG 61 KT
G. 087 DEG 006 NM
H. 1003 MB
I. 17 C/ 1592 M
J. 23 C/ 1519 M
K. 17 C/ NA
L. NA
M. NA
N. 12345/8
O. 0.1/3 NM
P. AF984 0802A BONNIE OB 10
MAX FL WIND 72 KT SE QUAD 1631Z.
MDT TURBC IN E EYEWALL. GOOD BANDING.

I'm amazed that the pressure remains this high.
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Does anyone think Bonnie......

#1831 Postby dixiebreeze » Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:11 pm

will make landfall sooner than the forecast 36 hours from now? Thanks!
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Hey Dixie!

#1832 Postby scogor » Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:14 pm

A little more excitement than we would like to have right now, wouldn't you agree?
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#1833 Postby Guest » Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:17 pm

again BONNIE is NOT a true hurricane.... it is a BE or BI tropical cyclone.

BE - BAROCLINICALY ENHANCED

BI BAROCLIICALLY INIATIATED

The RULE that hurricane sternght winds occur at or around 987 MB is Bogus in these types of systems.
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#1834 Postby Bane » Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:21 pm

Yes, I understand that. Itis still interesting to see it actually happen.
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#1835 Postby dixiebreeze » Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:31 pm

Indeed, Scogor. Especially since I'm flying out of Tampa in the morning!
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Dixie...

#1836 Postby scogor » Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:39 pm

You are getting out just in time. Our older daughter is going back to Gainesville tomorrow to move into her apartment and we are planning (hoping?) to help her set the apartment up over the weekend. At least that's the plan--the good news is we already have reserved our hotel room in Gainesville for Friday night!!
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1pm Bonnie-65 mph winds, Hurr. Warnings may be required

#1837 Postby Brent » Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:41 pm

:eek:

Tropical Storm Bonnie Intermediate Advisory Number 14a

Statement as of 1:00 PM CDT on August 11, 2004

...Bonnie accelerating northeastward and getting stronger...

a Tropical Storm Warning and a Hurricane Watch remain in effect
for the Florida Panhandle and northwest Florida from the
Alabama/Florida border eastward to the mouth of the Suwanee River.
A Hurricane Warning may be required for portions of the watch area
later today.

At 1 PM CDT...1800z...the center of Tropical Storm Bonnie was
located near latitude 26.2 north...longitude 89.5 west or about
205 miles south of the mouth of the Mississippi River.

Bonnie is moving toward the northeast near 12 mph. This general
motion...with a gradual increase in forward speed...is expected to
continue for the next 24 hours. On the forecast track...Bonnie is
expected to make landfall in the Florida Panhandle Thursday
morning.

Maximum sustained winds recently measured by reconnaissance
aircraft are 65 mph...with higher gusts...and reports also
indicate that a small eye may be forming. Additional
strengthening is forecast during the next 24 hours and Bonnie
could become a hurricane later tonight or Thursday morning.

Tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 70 miles from
the center. NOAA buoy 42001 located just east of the center of
Bonnie reported a 10-minute average wind of 56 mph with a gust
to 67 mph during the past few hours.

The estimated minimum central pressure is 1000 mb...29.53 inches.

Coastal storm surge flooding of 2 to 4 feet above normal tide
levels...along with large and dangerous battering waves...can be
expected near and to the right of where the center makes landfall.

Recent heavy rainfall over the Florida Panhandle has saturated the
ground. Additional rainfall accumulations of 4 to 6 inches...with
isolated higher amounts...can be expected near the path of Bonnie
by Thursday morning.

Repeating the 1 PM CDT position...26.2 N... 89.5w. Movement
toward...northeast near 12 mph. Maximum sustained
winds... 65 mph. Minimum central pressure...1000 mb.

For storm information specific to your area...please monitor
products issued by your local weather office.

The next advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane Center
at 4 PM CDT.
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Bonnie almost a hurricane=65 mph now at 2 pm

#1838 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:41 pm

Statement as of 1:00 PM CDT on August 11, 2004



...Bonnie accelerating northeastward and getting stronger...

a Tropical Storm Warning and a Hurricane Watch remain in effect
for the Florida Panhandle and northwest Florida from the
Alabama/Florida border eastward to the mouth of the Suwanee River.
A Hurricane Warning may be required for portions of the watch area
later today.

At 1 PM CDT...1800z...the center of Tropical Storm Bonnie was
located near latitude 26.2 north...longitude 89.5 west or about
205 miles south of the mouth of the Mississippi River.

Bonnie is moving toward the northeast near 12 mph. This general
motion...with a gradual increase in forward speed...is expected to
continue for the next 24 hours. On the forecast track...Bonnie is
expected to make landfall in the Florida Panhandle Thursday
morning.

Maximum sustained winds recently measured by reconnaissance
aircraft are 65 mph...with higher gusts...and reports also
indicate that a small eye may be forming. Additional
strengthening is forecast during the next 24 hours and Bonnie
could become a hurricane later tonight or Thursday morning.

Tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 70 miles from
the center. NOAA buoy 42001 located just east of the center of
Bonnie reported a 10-minute average wind of 56 mph with a gust
to 67 mph during the past few hours.

The estimated minimum central pressure is 1000 mb...29.53 inches.

Coastal storm surge flooding of 2 to 4 feet above normal tide
levels...along with large and dangerous battering waves...can be
expected near and to the right of where the center makes landfall.

Recent heavy rainfall over the Florida Panhandle has saturated the
ground. Additional rainfall accumulations of 4 to 6 inches...with
isolated higher amounts...can be expected near the path of Bonnie
by Thursday morning.

Repeating the 1 PM CDT position...26.2 N... 89.5w. Movement
toward...northeast near 12 mph. Maximum sustained
winds... 65 mph. Minimum central pressure...1000 mb.

For storm information specific to your area...please monitor
products issued by your local weather office.

The next advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane Center
at 4 PM CDT.

Forecaster Stewart
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#1839 Postby Dean4Storms » Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:49 pm

Well. if this direction continues then Bonnie is more of a threat near Cedar Key.
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#1840 Postby tallywx » Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:02 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:Well. if this direction continues then Bonnie is more of a threat near Cedar Key.


True, but at the same time we could get backing flow as the trough digs deeper. The trough is still relatively flat right now, allowing for an ENE movement. But as it digs in, that may switch the flow back around. Think Tropical Storm Josephine in 1996.
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