2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#781 Postby SFLcane » Fri May 03, 2024 4:25 am



Looks over cooked there but the Atl should be very favorable this season.
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#782 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Fri May 03, 2024 9:47 am

I've been looking at the GOM and the Loop Current in particular and it is starting to look like it might try to pinch off a warm eddy at some point. They generally move slowly west when they do pinch off. This can lead to RI for storms that pass over it. This happened in 2005.
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#783 Postby skyline385 » Fri May 03, 2024 8:37 pm

Probably the first signal of the season on EPS weeklies coinciding with the MJO passage

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 https://twitter.com/TropicalTidbits/status/1786531319423639912


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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#784 Postby drezee » Sat May 04, 2024 9:32 am

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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#785 Postby weeniepatrol » Sat May 04, 2024 3:56 pm

OHC.

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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#786 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 04, 2024 5:26 pm

weeniepatrol wrote:OHC.

https://i.imgur.com/yKoms2o.gif


Here is 2010. Wow, 2024 dominates easy.

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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#787 Postby JetFuel_SE » Sat May 04, 2024 5:55 pm

weeniepatrol wrote:OHC.

https://i.imgur.com/yKoms2o.gif

Wonder how the current OHC compares to the peak OHC in those seasons.
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#788 Postby LarryWx » Sat May 04, 2024 6:01 pm

cycloneye wrote:
weeniepatrol wrote:OHC.

https://i.imgur.com/yKoms2o.gif


Here is 2010. Wow, 2024 dominates easy.

https://i.imgur.com/a3m4yt6.jpeg


Luis,
When considering what level each color represents, I think 2024 and 2010 are likely closer together than how it appears. Example: yellow is ~100 on 2010 but only ~85 on 2024.
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#789 Postby skyline385 » Sat May 04, 2024 7:27 pm

LarryWx wrote:
cycloneye wrote:
weeniepatrol wrote:OHC.

https://i.imgur.com/yKoms2o.gif


Here is 2010. Wow, 2024 dominates easy.

https://i.imgur.com/a3m4yt6.jpeg


Luis,
When considering what level each color represents, I think 2024 and 2010 are likely closer together than how it appears. Example: yellow is ~100 on 2010 but only ~85 on 2024.


Yea i remember Brian McNoldy talked about it on Twitter, the scale was expanded around 2017 iirc
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#790 Postby skyline385 » Sat May 04, 2024 10:06 pm



Same EPS run as above

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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models) ECMWF is up

#791 Postby cycloneye » Sun May 05, 2024 7:32 am

ECMWF has a very active season proyected in this May run with ACE around 250. Yikes.

https://charts.ecmwf.int/products/seaso ... 0&zone=atl

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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models) Breaking news:ECMWF is up

#792 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sun May 05, 2024 9:07 am

Wow....um, I don't really have much to comment on aside from praying that whatever forms this year stays on out to sea. :eek:

In tropical weather, it's more often than not a bad idea to exaggerate or turn things into hyperbole. Could cause additional, unnecessary panic, etc. You know what I mean.

But given the indicators for this season, I'm confident to say that this might be that rare exception, and I'll say it right now as bluntly as I can.

2024 has the potential to go down in history and be a season that wx people talk about and reference extensively in future years. Much like 1933. 2004. 2005. 2017. And 2020.
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models) Breaking news:ECMWF is up

#793 Postby Hurricane2022 » Sun May 05, 2024 9:53 am

Category5Kaiju wrote:But given the indicators for this season, I'm confident to say that this might be that rare exception, and I'll say it right now as bluntly as I can.

2024 has the potential to go down in history and be a season that wx people talk about and reference extensively in future years, Much more than 2004. 2017. 2020. And even 2005 and 1933.

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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models) Breaking news:ECMWF is up

#794 Postby Teban54 » Sun May 05, 2024 10:45 am

The EC seasonal forecast is even more aggressive with MDR warmth. It's just getting absurd at this point.
 https://twitter.com/daniloevan11/status/1787112555128696935


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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models) Breaking news:ECMWF is up

#795 Postby skyline385 » Sun May 05, 2024 11:21 am

Not a big fan of the ridging shown at all, all seasonal models seem to be trending towards strong ridging

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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models) Breaking news:ECMWF is up

#796 Postby LarryWx » Sun May 05, 2024 11:39 am

Teban54 wrote:The EC seasonal forecast is even more aggressive with MDR warmth. It's just getting absurd at this point.
https://twitter.com/daniloevan11/status/1787112555128696935?s=19


One can also see that the Euro restrengthened La Niña as was shown in Luis’ post. The Euro had significantly warmed ENSO from its Mar forecast to its Apr forecast and now has reversed that/significantly cooled it back.
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models) Breaking news:ECMWF is up

#797 Postby blp » Sun May 05, 2024 11:53 am

What a difference :eek:

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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models) Breaking news:ECMWF is up

#798 Postby cajungal » Sun May 05, 2024 12:28 pm

It is beyond our control. All we can do is prepare for the worse and hope for the best that gloom and doom is wrong. But if another Ida comes for my area, I don’t think I can remain here.
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models) ECMWF is up

#800 Postby SFLcane » Sun May 05, 2024 3:24 pm

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