Tropical Wave in the SE GOMEX (Is Invest 91L)

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Re: Tropical Wave in the Bahamas - May Develop in the GOMEX Next Week

#161 Postby Blown Away » Sat Aug 19, 2023 8:37 am

wxman57 wrote:
Into The Fog wrote:
IcyTundra wrote:
I'm thinking between Corpus and Brownsville is the most likely area for landfall. They need the rain just as much as we do just sucks that we probably won't get much.
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If by chance it lands closer to Corpus, wouldn't Galveston be on the dirty side?


Galveston will be on the "death ridge" side. "No soup (rain) for you!"

NHC will probably be up to 60% by sunrise and 70% tomorrow afternoon/evening. I'm thinking they'll go 80% or higher Sunday. Little doubt it will be at least a depression before it moves inland into lower TX coast. I don't expect any rain as far north a Houston. Maybe just a teaser shower. We'll start advisories tomorrow afternoon after I look at 12Z guidance. Lots of calls scheduled already for Hilary & what will be 90L soon.


Hope this heavy tropical rain SFL is getting from this TW today makes its way to TX…
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Re: Tropical Wave in the Bahamas - May Develop in the GOMEX Next Week

#162 Postby Wampadawg » Sat Aug 19, 2023 8:46 am

Blown Away wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
Into The Fog wrote:\

Ice tundra:
If by chance it lands closer to Corpus, wouldn't Galveston be on the dirty side?


Galveston will be on the "death ridge" side. "No soup (rain) for you!"

NHC will probably be up to 60% by sunrise and 70% tomorrow afternoon/evening. I'm thinking they'll go 80% or higher Sunday. Little doubt it will be at least a depression before it moves inland into lower TX coast. I don't expect any rain as far north a Houston. Maybe just a teaser shower. We'll start advisories tomorrow afternoon after I look at 12Z guidance. Lots of calls scheduled already for Hilary & what will be 90L soon.


Hope this heavy tropical rain SFL is getting from this TW today makes its way to TX…
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Sooner or later the death ridge needs to move and the models will dangle more hope before snatching it away but a pitty taste would be welcomed to the next glimmer of hope comes
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Re: Tropical Wave in the Bahamas - May Develop in the GOMEX Next Week

#163 Postby BobHarlem » Sat Aug 19, 2023 8:59 am

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Re: RE: Re: Tropical Wave in the Bahamas - May Develop in the GOMEX Next Week

#164 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Aug 19, 2023 10:25 am

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Same old story, more rain SE Florida.
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Re: Tropical Wave near Cuba/South FL - May Develop in the GOMEX Next Week : Recon for Monday

#165 Postby tropicwatch » Sat Aug 19, 2023 11:23 am

Starting to see some lower-level vorticity 925mb level. Will be interesting to watch as the day progresses for increasing vorticity.
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Re: Tropical Wave near Cuba/South FL - May Develop in the GOMEX Next Week : Recon for Monday

#166 Postby Nimbus » Sat Aug 19, 2023 11:53 am

tropicwatch wrote:Starting to see some lower-level vorticity 925mb level. Will be interesting to watch as the day progresses for increasing vorticity.


I see the upper/mid level circulation back over Cuba.
Bahamas convection is hiding the 925 lower level features but surface wave may be sharpening up a little there.
I can wait for the Key West buoy readings which give a pretty good profile 1940's style.
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Re: Tropical Wave near Cuba/South FL - May Develop in the GOMEX Next Week : Recon for Monday

#167 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 19, 2023 11:57 am

Recon for Monday afternoon. This means it will be invest 91L soon.

POSSIBLE LOW-LEVEL INVEST MISSION OVER THE CENTRAL GULF OF
MEXICO NEAR 25.5N 90.5W FOR 21/1800Z.
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Re: Tropical Wave near Cuba/South FL - May Develop in the GOMEX Next Week : Recon for Monday

#168 Postby Wampadawg » Sat Aug 19, 2023 12:51 pm

What is everyone’s take on RGEM model it shows a little further north?
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Re: Tropical Wave near Cuba/South FL - May Develop in the GOMEX Next Week : Recon for Monday

#169 Postby Stratton23 » Sat Aug 19, 2023 12:52 pm

It depends on where the system consolidates
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Re: Tropical Wave near Cuba/South FL - May Develop in the GOMEX Next Week : Recon for Monday

#170 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 19, 2023 12:54 pm

2 PM TWO:

Western Gulf of Mexico:
An area of disturbed weather located near the northwestern and
central Bahamas is expected to move into the Gulf of Mexico by early
next week, where a broad area of low pressure is expected to form.
Some slow development of this system is possible thereafter, and a
tropical depression could form as it moves westward and approaches
the western Gulf of Mexico coastline by the middle of next week.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...medium...50 percent.
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Re: Tropical Wave near Cuba/South FL - May Develop in the GOMEX Next Week : Recon for Monday

#171 Postby Jr0d » Sat Aug 19, 2023 1:42 pm

Not looking like its organizing much at all despite the persistent convection. I have yet to get any rain in Key West from this.

CAPE was around 900 this morning's weather balloon which is a bit low, last weekend it was over 3000.

I was thinking we might get a closed low Sunday near the Keys, for this to happen it will really have to get its act together. There is an ULL south of Cuba that likely is inhibiting development also.

While we will almost certainly get some rain later tonight, with the CAPE being so low they likely will not be too strong, unlike last Saturday.

Hopefully this stretches out before it gets to Texas for better drought relief.
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Re: Tropical Wave near Cuba/South FL - May Develop in the GOMEX Next Week : Recon for Monday

#172 Postby Steve » Sat Aug 19, 2023 1:45 pm

Wampadawg wrote:What is everyone’s take on RGEM model it shows a little further north?



Still minimal rainfall except between Nueces and Cameron Counties. We got 3 days for that to modify if…
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Re: Tropical Wave near Cuba/South FL - May Develop in the GOMEX Next Week : Recon for Monday

#173 Postby Nimbus » Sat Aug 19, 2023 2:24 pm

Jr0d wrote:Not looking like its organizing much at all despite the persistent convection. I have yet to get any rain in Key West from this.

CAPE was around 900 this morning's weather balloon which is a bit low, last weekend it was over 3000.

I was thinking we might get a closed low Sunday near the Keys, for this to happen it will really have to get its act together. There is an ULL south of Cuba that likely is inhibiting development also.

While we will almost certainly get some rain later tonight, with the CAPE being so low they likely will not be too strong, unlike last Saturday.

Hopefully this stretches out before it gets to Texas for better drought relief.


The mid level center just south of Cuba is close enough to the surface that its kicking up some convection.
Its an interesting system to watch as it may transition to a warm core system.
There were a few low level clouds further north in the Bahamas that suggested the apex of the surface wave was sharpening there.
We could even get two low level centers that Fugiwara and bring rain to a wider area of the coastline.

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Re: Tropical Wave near Cuba/South FL - May Develop in the GOMEX Next Week

#174 Postby REDHurricane » Sat Aug 19, 2023 4:36 pm

Possibly some increased mid/upper-level vorticity?

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GFS appears to see it too:

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Re: Tropical Wave near Cuba/South FL - May Develop in the GOMEX Next Week

#175 Postby IcyTundra » Sat Aug 19, 2023 5:30 pm

This will probably be an invest when it enters the gulf tomorrow.
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Re: Tropical Wave near Cuba/South FL - May Develop in the GOMEX Next Week

#176 Postby jaguars_22 » Sat Aug 19, 2023 5:46 pm

South of homestead Florida looks suspicious… may wrap up
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Re: Tropical Wave near Cuba/South FL - May Develop in the GOMEX Next Week

#177 Postby SFLcane » Sat Aug 19, 2023 6:28 pm

This has been a non issue precip wise for Florida the wave actually stayed a bit further south then anticipated.
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Re: Tropical Wave near Cuba/South FL - May Develop in the GOMEX Next Week

#178 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 19, 2023 6:48 pm

8 PM TWO:

Western Gulf of Mexico:
An area of disturbed weather located over the Florida peninsula is
expected to move into the Gulf of Mexico by early next week, where a
broad area of low pressure is expected to form. Some slow
development of this system is possible thereafter, and a tropical
depression could form as it moves westward and approaches the
western Gulf of Mexico coastline by the middle of next week.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...medium...50 percent.
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Re: Tropical Wave near Cuba/South FL - May Develop in the GOMEX Next Week

#179 Postby ouragans » Sat Aug 19, 2023 7:16 pm

Will there be an Invest inland over SoFla?
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Re: Tropical Wave near Cuba/South FL - May Develop in the GOMEX Next Week

#180 Postby Nimbus » Sat Aug 19, 2023 8:01 pm

Key west buoy briefly dipped below 29.90 this afternoon should see the lowest surface pressure tomorrow maybe 1011 mb?

https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/show_plot.php ... _label=EDT
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