2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#401 Postby NotSparta » Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:24 pm

cycloneye wrote:Yikes, the MDR will get more warmer with the -NAO comming in March.

https://i.imgur.com/d6Ns6wo.png


Seems about right. Spring begins and with it a -NAO develops. Like clockwork in the 2020s
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#402 Postby weeniepatrol » Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:52 pm

Lmao the cooling from the brief period of stronger trades has already been reversed. MDR might hit +2.0C for the first time ever?

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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#403 Postby cycloneye » Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:46 pm

And the warming will intensifie in March thru early April per EPS with the -NAO.

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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#404 Postby cycloneye » Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:33 pm

Oh boy, JB continues with his 2024 Hurricane idea.

 https://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi/status/1763011863783088488


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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#405 Postby Teban54 » Thu Feb 29, 2024 3:53 am

For fun only: I was looking up a bunch of tweets, and found this from March 2013:
 https://twitter.com/TropicalTidbits/status/317004456036294656



Disclaimer: by no means am I claiming this season will be like 2013 or that some other unknown factor will hold it back. Just thought it was interesting to see.

Current SSTAs for reference:
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#407 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:36 pm

Teban54 wrote:For fun only: I was looking up a bunch of tweets, and found this from March 2013:
https://twitter.com/TropicalTidbits/status/317004456036294656?s=19
Disclaimer: by no means am I claiming this season will be like 2013 or that some other unknown factor will hold it back. Just thought it was interesting to see.

Current SSTAs for reference:
https://i.postimg.cc/j2srs22B/ssta-natl.png

As I recall...2013 had a warm signature pretty much everywhere which lead it to be slow. Currently we look to be setting up for the Atlantic Tripole with a cooler subtropical region...if it stays that way. That's another sign of a busy season
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#408 Postby zzzh » Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:52 pm

ScottNAtlanta wrote:
Teban54 wrote:For fun only: I was looking up a bunch of tweets, and found this from March 2013:
https://twitter.com/TropicalTidbits/status/317004456036294656?s=19
Disclaimer: by no means am I claiming this season will be like 2013 or that some other unknown factor will hold it back. Just thought it was interesting to see.

Current SSTAs for reference:
https://i.postimg.cc/j2srs22B/ssta-natl.png

As I recall...2013 had a warm signature pretty much everywhere which lead it to be slow. Currently we look to be setting up for the Atlantic Tripole with a cooler subtropical region...if it stays that way. That's another sign of a busy season

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2013 was warm in the winter-spring only. +NAO persisted in spring 2013 leading to a pretty obvious -AMO by June.
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#409 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:57 pm

Hey...they just let out of the hospital today after being there a week with a bone infection of all things. I'm just getting back into the swing of things...must not have remembered correctly :raincloud:
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models) CanSIPS is up

#410 Postby cycloneye » Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:26 pm

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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models) CanSIPS is up

#411 Postby MarioProtVI » Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:04 pm

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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models) CanSIPS is up

#413 Postby zzzh » Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:23 pm

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Comparing Cansips forecast with the composite of the most active hurricane seasons.
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models) CanSIPS is up

#414 Postby zzzh » Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:35 pm

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Strong +U850 anomaly in the MDR is due to +AMO, in the Caribbean it's due to La Nina. When those 2 are both here, get ready for a busy season :D
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models) CanSIPS is up

#415 Postby NotSparta » Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:54 pm

zzzh wrote:https://i.imgur.com/5OsQlb2.png
https://i.imgur.com/WOVZU30.png
https://i.imgur.com/ZPu3YH8.png
https://i.imgur.com/kKby2G5.png
Comparing Cansips forecast with the composite of the most active hurricane seasons.


The u-wind anomalies are basically out of a textbook. Makes sense when all the indicators are favorable
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models) CanSIPS is up

#416 Postby SFLcane » Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:12 pm

Train right into the southeast. :eek:

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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models) CanSIPS is up

#417 Postby mixedDanilo.E » Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:55 pm

zzzh wrote:https://i.imgur.com/5OsQlb2.png
https://i.imgur.com/WOVZU30.png
https://i.imgur.com/ZPu3YH8.png
https://i.imgur.com/kKby2G5.png
Comparing Cansips forecast with the composite of the most active hurricane seasons.


That's a very active look... to say the least.
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models) CanSIPS is up

#418 Postby mixedDanilo.E » Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:00 pm

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It's like the WPAC called and wants to relocate to the atlantic lol.
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models) CanSIPS is up

#420 Postby WeatherBoy2000 » Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:03 am



Is there any meteorological/scientific backing behind the idea of a warm blob off Newfoundland causing instability issues in the tropics? I'm just wondering because I keep seeing people bring it up. 2005 had a belt of warm anomalies off Newfoundland and outside the mdr it was prime time in the deep tropics.
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