Low Pressure in the Northwest Caribbean Sea (Is Invest 93L)

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Re: Possible Development in the Northwestern Caribbean

#41 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:10 pm

Hope the Euro drops this. Because this is a major sleeper here.
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Re: Possible Development in the Northwestern Caribbean

#42 Postby IcyTundra » Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:17 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
NDG wrote:


He's looking for anything to discredit the Euro, that's how he was when the Euro was showing Franklin to form but the GFS was not. Lol.



I don't see how he's wrong here. The Euro is having terrible consistency.


Models haven’t been great this year including the GFS. We just need to wait and see with this one.
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Re: Possible Development in the Northwestern Caribbean

#43 Postby Wampadawg » Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:28 pm

IcyTundra wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
NDG wrote:
He's looking for anything to discredit the Euro, that's how he was when the Euro was showing Franklin to form but the GFS was not. Lol.



I don't see how he's wrong here. The Euro is having terrible consistency.


Models haven’t been great this year including the GFS. We just need to wait and see with this one.


Agreed and These Gulf Storms seem to be hard for them to get a handle early on,who know could get buried into Mexico
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Re: Possible Development in the Northwestern Caribbean

#44 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:44 pm

Andy hasn’t been wrong. So not sure where the bashing is coming from.
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Re: Possible Development in the Northwestern Caribbean

#45 Postby MetroMike » Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:51 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:Andy hasn’t been wrong. So not sure where the bashing is coming from.


What??
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Re: Possible Development in the Northwestern Caribbean

#46 Postby weeniepatrol » Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:53 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:Andy hasn’t been wrong. So not sure where the bashing is coming from.


Didn't he say that no storms forming in August was a realistic scenario within 48 hours of four August storms forming
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Re: Possible Development in the Northwestern Caribbean

#47 Postby Teban54 » Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:26 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:Andy hasn’t been wrong. So not sure where the bashing is coming from.

In this particular instance, while he wasn't wrong about operational Euro being inconsistent about the Caribbean system, Euro ensembles have been hinting at development for a while now.

Even himself admitted to such a possibility a week ago, roughly when ensembles began showing signals:
 https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1691858628490285149



 https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1693388607594147870


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Re: Possible Development in the Northwestern Caribbean

#48 Postby Ianswfl » Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:38 pm

ICOn even faster 00z! Landfall Key West area Monday night then far SWFL on Tue! Time keeps moving up. Slightly stronger 999mb this run. Time might not be in it's favor to organize with fast movement. Shifting east a tad too.
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Re: Possible Development in the Northwestern Caribbean

#49 Postby Stratton23 » Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:05 pm

GFS has absolutely nothing, doesnt even cross over the energy
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Re: Possible Development in the Northwestern Caribbean

#50 Postby jfk08c » Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:11 pm

00z Canadian with a nice little rainmaker cutting up through Florida
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Re: Possible Development in the Northwestern Caribbean

#51 Postby Ianswfl » Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:15 pm

Stratton23 wrote:GFS has absolutely nothing, doesnt even cross over the energy


Actually it does on Tue, but VERY weak nothing hardly but has weak low pressure there. I'm wondering if it's shear from Franklin on these runs too! Franklin is a lot more west on this run as well.

Canadian still has a strong TS landfall Venice area, but a lot faster time frame. Monday afternoon Key West, Late evening early AM Venice area as a strong TS storm that has a sheared look on simulated IR. Think Gabrielle 2001 look in the same area. Longer it stays over water stronger it is. This run is fast so it brings it ashore as the pressures drop. It seems to organize from energy a bit more to the east that's currently along the coast of Honduras that always is spinning.

This could develop pretty fast, but good thing not enough time for an Ian or Charley type storm.
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Re: Possible Development in the Northwestern Caribbean

#52 Postby Ianswfl » Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:17 pm

jfk08c wrote:00z Canadian with a nice little rainmaker cutting up through Florida


Moves very fast, hence doesn't have time to organize but the pressure starts to fall off steadily the hours before landfall. We're talking Monday morning possibly for the Keys and late Monday night for Venice area landfall. Time over water is key here.

If it's more organize maybe cat2 is the ceiling then.
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Re: Possible Development in the Northwestern Caribbean

#53 Postby Ianswfl » Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:21 am

RGEM also showing a forming TS moving off Cuba on Sat for FL. Looks kinda sheared though. Due to warm SST and time of year maybe an Irene 99 type hurricane. Kinda lopsided.
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Re: Possible Development in the Northwestern Caribbean

#54 Postby AtlanticWind » Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:34 am

The GFS usually loves to develop systems in the W carribean, now it’s
giving up on that :D
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Re: Possible Development in the Northwestern Caribbean

#55 Postby Ianswfl » Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:56 am

NHC now 10 and 40 percent on this! Not shocked at the 10 in 48 hours. Some models like the ICON and CMC crank it up a lot sooner. CMC is fast.
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Re: Possible Development in the Northwestern Caribbean

#56 Postby Landy » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:07 am

Northwestern Caribbean Sea:
An area of low pressure could form in a couple of days over the
northwestern Caribbean Sea. Some gradual development of this system
is possible over the weekend and early next week, and a tropical
depression could form while it moves slowly northward across the
eastern Gulf of Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...medium...40 percent.

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Re: Possible Development in the Northwestern Caribbean

#57 Postby Ianswfl » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:09 am

ooz euro thru 72 a bit more east than prior runs. Similar intensity so far. weak TD at that time. Maybe a tad faster too.
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Re: Possible Development in the Northwestern Caribbean

#58 Postby FireRat » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:27 am

Already an orange, oh boy! Gonna be a battle for that I-name once again huh :double:
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Re: Possible Development in the Northwestern Caribbean

#59 Postby AtlanticWind » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:27 am

A definite threat to somewhere in Florida
I would expect at most a minimal hurricane
but more likely a T.S.
You never know for sure this time of year though.
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Re: Possible Development in the Northwestern Caribbean

#60 Postby Ianswfl » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:35 am

AtlanticWind wrote:A definite threat to somewhere in Florida
I would expect at most a minimal hurricane
but more likely a T.S.
You never know for sure this time of year though.


Yep. Looks like landfall around Hernando County. More east than prior runs, not shocked. I wouldn't be shocked at a landfall more around Venice. Due to the speed and some shear I agree it won't be strong. Waters are hot though. My personal opinion Big bend on down to the Keys is think of this as a Irene 1999 storm. I can see an 85mph storm maybe.

Still, for SWFL even a cat1 will still cause issues with power outages and recovery efforts.

Landfall is Wed AM. If it's SWFL like Englewood then Tue evening, Keys early Tue AM. Things are going to get going quick.
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