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Re: ENSO Updates

#13581 Postby zzzh » Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:39 pm

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PDO warms up quickly.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#13582 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:50 pm

zzzh wrote:https://i.imgur.com/mnsIJfA.png
PDO warms up quickly.


Nope. SSTAs off Japan have warmed just as much if not more in recent weeks.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#13583 Postby zzzh » Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:13 pm

:uarrow: That area is less correlated with the PDO compared to central subtropical Pacific, which didn't warm that much.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#13584 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:35 am

July PDO came in at -2.58.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#13585 Postby Ntxw » Sun Aug 06, 2023 1:46 pm

Waters off the east of Japan has held up the PDO, along with strip of cold SW of North America, but parts of the Northeast Pacific have changed.

SOI is coupling with the Nino, very hard fall in August compared to what happened in June and July.

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Re: ENSO Updates

#13586 Postby LarryWx » Sun Aug 06, 2023 2:22 pm

Nino 1+2 SSTa is today up to +3.632C per OISST after an 8 day rise of 0.7C. Per the OISST graph, tomorrow's weekly report (for the prior week) should rise from the prior +3.0C to ~+3.3C.

Meanwhile, the OHC remains just below +0.75 as of August 1st.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#13587 Postby Ntxw » Sun Aug 06, 2023 11:12 pm

Per buoys ~1.5C (yellow) has spilled west towards 160W which is warmer than the prior week's 5 day avg. Should be +1.3C.

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Re: ENSO Updates

#13588 Postby LarryWx » Sun Aug 06, 2023 11:40 pm

Ntxw wrote:Per buoys ~1.5C (yellow) has spilled west towards 160W which is warmer than the prior week's 5 day avg. Should be +1.3C.

https://i.imgur.com/8gtHgBX.png


I'd agree based on these warming buoys. However, fwiw OISST strangely enough suggests possible slight cooling to +1.1! Maybe they'll split the difference and there will be no change.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#13589 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:10 am

Here is CPC weekly update of 8/7/23.

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/ ... ts-web.pdf

Niño 1+2= +3.4C
Niño 3= +1.8ºC
Niño 3.4= +1.1ºC
Niño 4= +0.8C
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Re: ENSO Updates

#13590 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:13 am

cycloneye wrote:Here is CPC weekly update of 8/7/23.

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/ ... ts-web.pdf

Niño 1+2= +3.4C
Niño 3= +1.8ºC
Niño 3.4= +1.1ºC
Niño 4= +0.8C

Wow, the El Nino is still getting crazier.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#13591 Postby Ntxw » Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:29 am

LarryWx wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Per buoys ~1.5C (yellow) has spilled west towards 160W which is warmer than the prior week's 5 day avg. Should be +1.3C.

https://i.imgur.com/8gtHgBX.png


I'd agree based on these warming buoys. However, fwiw OISST strangely enough suggests possible slight cooling to +1.1! Maybe they'll split the difference and there will be no change.


You were correct! Looks like OISST caught that one.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#13592 Postby LarryWx » Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:06 pm

Ntxw wrote:
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Ntxw wrote:Per buoys ~1.5C (yellow) has spilled west towards 160W which is warmer than the prior week's 5 day avg. Should be +1.3C.

https://i.imgur.com/8gtHgBX.png


I'd agree based on these warming buoys. However, fwiw OISST strangely enough suggests possible slight cooling to +1.1! Maybe they'll split the difference and there will be no change.


You were correct! Looks like OISST caught that one.


Thanks. Also, Nino 1+2 warmed even more than my +3.3 guess to +3.4.

Despite OISST catching that 3.4 cooling last week, things are now reversing in a hurry. The TAO buoys update today is another significantly warmer day. Also, today is significantly warmer than yesterday on OISST, the warm biased CRW, and the cool biased CDAS. The CDAS warmed a whopping 0.109 since yesterday, which is the strongest CDAS warming in one day since at least March 1st! Also, it exceeded +1.0 for the first time this El Niño. This along with the recent period of stronger -SOI tells me that we may finally have a period of sustained significant warming upcoming in 3.4, which would be the first time in two months.
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Re: ENSO Updates= CPC Weekly update= Niño 1+2= +3.4C Niño 3= 1.8C / Niño 3.4 = +1.1C

#13593 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:39 pm

Looks like the SOI maybe finally coupling. GFS has a couple more strongly negative daily values before day 5. Day 5-10 it raises it back before it tanks it again.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#13594 Postby jconsor » Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:06 am

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Re: ENSO Updates

#13595 Postby jconsor » Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:07 am

The significant warming near the W. coast of N. America has been partially offset by the warming between Japan and the central subtropical Pacific. Daily PDO has come up slightly from the low point of ~2 in early Jul, and is now similar to what it was in Jun at ~1.6.

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The above graph is updated (with a few day delay vs. current day) here: https://s2s.worldclimateservice.com/pdo.png

Ntxw wrote:Waters off the east of Japan has held up the PDO, along with strip of cold SW of North America, but parts of the Northeast Pacific have changed.

SOI is coupling with the Nino, very hard fall in August compared to what happened in June and July.

https://i.imgur.com/Us32gxu.png
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Re: ENSO Updates

#13596 Postby zzzh » Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:35 pm

June-July MEI only up to 0.3.
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Re: ENSO Updates: CPC important August update on the 10th

#13597 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:49 pm

Larrywx, Ntxw, the important update from CPC for August will be released on Thursday. Let's see if they increase to Moderate El Niño or remains as Weak.
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Re: ENSO Updates: CPC important August update on the 10th

#13598 Postby Ntxw » Tue Aug 08, 2023 8:33 pm

cycloneye wrote:Larrywx, Ntxw, the important update from CPC for August will be released on Thursday. Let's see if they increase to Moderate El Niño or remains as Weak.


The buoys continue to show some very strong anomalies. Growing region of 1.5C+. This is about time of year when ENSO starts to exert moving into the Fall season.
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Re: ENSO Updates: CPC important August update on the 10th

#13599 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 08, 2023 9:14 pm

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Re: ENSO Updates: CPC important August update on the 10th

#13600 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:23 am

:uarrow: 2018-2019 the atmosphere was in El Nino.
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