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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#101 Postby ElectricStorm » Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:31 pm

InfernoFlameCat wrote:
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Weather Dude wrote:In my unprofessional opinion, based on the damage I've seen, this will likely be rated a high end EF3 at the minimum. Would not be surprised at all if it gets EF4.

Based on contextual ground scouring, anchoring, debris pile, etc., it’s definitely low-end EF4. The large home was evidently anchored, though the debris did not scatter far. Similar damage was observed during the Estill–Nixville–Fechtig, SC, EF4 tornado on 13 April 2020, which was posthumously upgraded to low-end EF4 status. Damage in Damascus, GA, also looks to be in the low-to-mid EF3 range:
https://twitter.com/WX_ManMike/status/1361684322558820358

Keep in mind that the copious amounts of rainfall that area has received has made the soil much less stable and easier to be manipulated by high winds compared to the much drier plains. In other words, it was easier for the tornado to damage the ground than usual. I expect a rating no greater than a minimal Ef4 (Minimal to devastating tornadoes Ef4-Ef5).

Also I would rate the Damascus twister a mid Ef2

Yeah I wouldn't put it any higher than minimal EF4. My guess is that it will be a prelim EF3 with upgrade to minimal 4 later. As for Damascus, I would probably go with low end EF3
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#102 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:33 pm

Severe weather no longer expected for Southern Florida today
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#103 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:36 pm

I wonder why a lone supercell storm produced such an intense vortex so far east in the early morning. A rare event for sure.
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#104 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:48 pm

InfernoFlameCat wrote:I wonder why a lone supercell storm produced such an intense vortex so far east in the early morning. A rare event for sure.

This happens in Oklahoma too, the conditions became very favorable when that stubborn Supercell went into that area & took advantage of it in those conditions . . .
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#105 Postby ElectricStorm » Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:57 pm

InfernoFlameCat wrote:I wonder why a lone supercell storm produced such an intense vortex so far east in the early morning. A rare event for sure.

I saw reports last night that people close to the area experienced a 15 degree temp increase shortly before the tornado warnings went up. I saw a discussion on another forum that talked about how the storm must have pulled in heat/moisture from the gulf stream. Otherwise there's not much of an explanation for that big of a temp change at night... Apparently the environment did not support any tornadoes at all before that, let alone a strong/violent one. Shows how quickly things can change...
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#106 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:20 pm

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InfernoFlameCat wrote:I wonder why a lone supercell storm produced such an intense vortex so far east in the early morning. A rare event for sure.

I saw reports last night that people close to the area experienced a 15 degree temp increase shortly before the tornado warnings went up. I saw a discussion on another forum that talked about how the storm must have pulled in heat/moisture from the gulf stream. Otherwise there's not much of an explanation for that big of a temp change at night... Apparently the environment did not support any tornadoes at all before that, let alone a strong/violent one. Shows how quickly things can change...

That thing literally controlled the weather to become more favorable for it to produce the tornado?
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#107 Postby ElectricStorm » Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:22 pm

About what I expected, preliminary, subject to change.
https://mobile.twitter.com/NWSWilmingto ... 3358778368


With this rating, it is the strongest tornado in NC since April 16, 2011.
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#108 Postby ElectricStorm » Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:43 pm

Also found an update for the Damascus storm. At least EF2, but they still have a ways to go on the survey
https://mobile.twitter.com/NWSTallahass ... 3996488707
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#109 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:46 am

160mph Ef3 tornado for the NC supercell. Called it :wink:
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#110 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:03 am

Slight risk along the Gulf Coast today
Marginal
  • Panhandle Florida
  • Extreme SW Georgia
  • Southern Alabama
  • Southern Mississippi
  • Southeastern Louisiana


  • 65 mph wind gusts
  • Quarter Sized Hail
  • Maybe a Tornado
Slight
  • Coastal Alabama
  • Coastal Mississippi
  • Coastal Louisiana

  • Up to Half Dollar Sized Hail
  • 75 mph wind gusts
  • Higher Threat of Tornadoes
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#111 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:13 am

Tomorrow's Severe Weather Threat

Marginal
  • Northwestern Florida (Including the Panhandle)
  • Southern Georgia
  • Southeastern South Carolina
  • Far Southern North Carolina


  • 65 mph wind gusts
  • Maybe a Tornado

Slight
  • The Eastern Side of Panhandle Florida
  • Portions of Southern Georgia
  • Extreme Southern South Carolina


  • 75-80 mph wind gusts
  • Higher Threat of Tornadoes
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#112 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:34 am

Not much potential for tornadoes for this one. I would lower risk due to a greater influx of colder air and a smaller contrast in temps between the fronts.
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#113 Postby ElectricStorm » Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:20 pm

Update on the NC tornado from Monday. Winds upped slightly to at least 165mph/top end EF3. Might get bumped to a minimal EF4 but either way the difference is just a number the damage is the same. Either one looks fine to me.
Here is a write up from NWS Wilmington. It's not final quite yet so there can still be some changes.
https://mobile.twitter.com/NWSWilmingto ... 6801421318

EDIT: The new official update still lists it as 160mph so the one I posted above was likely a typo because it mentioned 160 earlier in the discussion before it mentioned 165. As of right now it is still preliminary but they mentioned the survey teams are back so I'd imagine the final rating will come out sometime tomorrow.
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#114 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:44 am

Severe Weather threat Today (NOTE: This will be pushed further east as the line of storms moves the threat zone with it too)

Marginal

  • Portions of Panhandle Florida
  • Southern Georgia
  • Eastern South Carolina
  • Southern North Carolina

  • 60 mph wind gusts
  • maybe a Tornado

Slight

  • (Same areas for Georgia & Florida as does the Marginal Risk)
  • Southern South Carolina

  • 65 mph wind gusts
  • Higher threats of Tornadoes
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#115 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:08 am

I see a potential supercell storm in Tifton Georgia. Hook radar developing and an overshooting top on satellite.
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#116 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:24 am

Line of supercells along south Georgia. I see three.
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#117 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:31 am

InfernoFlameCat wrote:Line of supercells along south Georgia. I see three.

Low-Topped or LPS? National Radar is not picking up much . . .
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#118 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:47 am

Iceresistance wrote:
InfernoFlameCat wrote:Line of supercells along south Georgia. I see three.

Low-Topped or LPS? National Radar is not picking up much . . .
Neither, They are Hp supercells. None have any tornado signatures yet however.
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#119 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:50 am

There is only one now that I can see. No tornadoes.
They are not very impressive storms.
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#120 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:17 pm

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