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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#121 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:54 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#122 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:00 pm

November 2023 PDO index has just came in at -1.79
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#123 Postby starsfan65 » Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:20 pm

Iceresistance wrote:Not the Christmas Torch! :spam:

https://twitter.com/BenNollWeather/status/1731667170940305898

I hate warm weather!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#124 Postby starsfan65 » Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:21 pm

Iceresistance wrote:November 2023 PDO index has just came in at -1.79
Is it down or up?
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#125 Postby Stratton23 » Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:53 pm

Im not buying the cold pattern towards the end of the month, In expecting a mild Christmas for most of the US, teleconnections are unfavorable
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#126 Postby starsfan65 » Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:55 pm

Stratton23 wrote:Im not buying the cold pattern towards the end of the month, In expecting a mild Christmas for most of the US, teleconnections are unfavorable
Who Said?
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#127 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:27 pm

Euro is still on the train of a potent system this coming weekend. We haven't been buying it as hard because the GFS and CMC have been further north. Got watch these things.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#128 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:24 pm

starsfan65 wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:November 2023 PDO index has just came in at -1.79
Is it down or up?


October 2023 was -2.26, so it is indeed going down
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#129 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:24 pm

POW Ponder has this


Link: https://youtu.be/V3LdHwoRkU8
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#130 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:38 pm

Ntxw wrote:Euro is still on the train of a potent system this coming weekend. We haven't been buying it as hard because the GFS and CMC have been further north. Got watch these things.


Nice shift from 00z to 12z, wouldn't take much more to get NTX back in the game. It will be interesting to see what the 12z EPS shows. However, the recent trend on the EPS would suggest that the 12z op run is an outlier at this point.

ETA: If anything, the 12z EPS is a step backward from the 00z. However, I have noticed that the op can pick up trends before the EPS, and we might not see the EPS adjust until 00z tonight.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#131 Postby HockeyTx82 » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:45 pm

bubba hotep wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Euro is still on the train of a potent system this coming weekend. We haven't been buying it as hard because the GFS and CMC have been further north. Got watch these things.


Nice shift from 00z to 12z, wouldn't take much more to get NTX back in the game. It will be interesting to see what the 12z EPS shows. However, the recent trend on the EPS would suggest that the 12z op run is an outlier at this point.

ETA: If anything, the 12z EPS is a step backward from the 00z. However, I have noticed that the op can pick up trends before the EPS, and we might not see the EPS adjust until 00z tonight.


Back in the game for winter weather or severe weather?

What are we talking about?
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#132 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:50 pm

bubba hotep wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Euro is still on the train of a potent system this coming weekend. We haven't been buying it as hard because the GFS and CMC have been further north. Got watch these things.


Nice shift from 00z to 12z, wouldn't take much more to get NTX back in the game. It will be interesting to see what the 12z EPS shows. However, the recent trend on the EPS would suggest that the 12z op run is an outlier at this point.

ETA: If anything, the 12z EPS is a step backward from the 00z. However, I have noticed that the op can pick up trends before the EPS, and we might not see the EPS adjust until 00z tonight.


The AO is fairly negative so there some belief a deeper, southerly route is possible. QPF (seasonal trend) and cold air availability is questionable. The southern high plains is the target zone for winter this year from the forecasts, maybe we can sneak something on the fringes.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#133 Postby WacoWx » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:51 pm

That video was recorded on 12/1...FYI
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#134 Postby Stratton23 » Mon Dec 04, 2023 6:31 pm

18z GEFS is a bit interesting at hour 216
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#135 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Dec 04, 2023 8:21 pm

Ntxw wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Euro is still on the train of a potent system this coming weekend. We haven't been buying it as hard because the GFS and CMC have been further north. Got watch these things.


Nice shift from 00z to 12z, wouldn't take much more to get NTX back in the game. It will be interesting to see what the 12z EPS shows. However, the recent trend on the EPS would suggest that the 12z op run is an outlier at this point.

ETA: If anything, the 12z EPS is a step backward from the 00z. However, I have noticed that the op can pick up trends before the EPS, and we might not see the EPS adjust until 00z tonight.


The AO is fairly negative so there some belief a deeper, southerly route is possible. QPF (seasonal trend) and cold air availability is questionable. The southern high plains is the target zone for winter this year from the forecasts, maybe we can sneak something on the fringes.


If you extrapolate the 18z Euro (at your own peril), then it probably ends up deeper and slower than 12z, which was deeper and slower than 00z.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#136 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:11 pm

That 12z euro was way closer than I imagined here but will it show it again at 0z is the big question
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#137 Postby HockeyTx82 » Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:31 pm

What are you all talking about and for who?

I feel like him right now

https://youtu.be/u_Xxayw0uPo?feature=shared
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#138 Postby Stratton23 » Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:40 pm

They are talking about the bowling ball upper low, and probably oklahoma im guessing as well as wintry precipitation / rain, no chance texas gets in on the wintry part, maybe some rain
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#139 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:21 pm

Stratton23 wrote:They are talking about the bowling ball upper low, and probably oklahoma im guessing as well as wintry precipitation / rain, no chance texas gets in on the wintry part, maybe some rain


Heck the other day it appeared it may not even rain :spam: so the fact we're back talking about precip at all is a win :lol:

Well see... The 12z euro was a big outlier to be fair
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#140 Postby Stratton23 » Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:34 pm

tonights model runs are getting interesting in the 9-10 day period
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